Is the Latest Star Wars Movie Worth an Immediate Watch?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around opinions on the latest Star Wars movie, focusing on its merits, character development, and overall enjoyment compared to previous episodes. Participants share their experiences, preferences, and critiques, exploring themes of violence, dialogue quality, and character arcs.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enjoyment of the movie, highlighting its darker tone and action sequences, while others remain skeptical due to previous disappointments with earlier episodes.
  • One participant notes the absence of humor akin to Jar Jar Binks, suggesting this contributes to a more serious atmosphere.
  • Critiques include weak dialogue and poorly executed love scenes, with some participants specifically mentioning the character Anakin's portrayal as lacking depth.
  • There are differing opinions on whether prior knowledge of Episodes I and II is necessary to understand the plot of Episode III, with some asserting that it is essential for character context.
  • Concerns are raised about the focus on special effects overshadowing plot development in the Star Wars franchise.
  • Some participants express fatigue with the ongoing Star Wars saga and a preference for independent films, while others remain enthusiastic about the series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the film's quality and the necessity of prior episodes for understanding. While some find it a worthy addition to the series, others are critical of its execution and express a desire for different types of films.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference varying levels of attachment to the Star Wars franchise, which influences their perspectives. The discussion includes subjective interpretations of character motivations and plot coherence, reflecting personal biases and experiences with the series.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of the Star Wars franchise, movie enthusiasts interested in character-driven narratives, and those curious about differing opinions on contemporary blockbuster films may find this discussion relevant.

  • #61
I enjoyed it. I don't think it's very likely we will see very many movies out there made on par with the original Star Wars movies so I'm not going to be too depressed that these didn't come out that great.
There is a funny scene that looks as though it intentionally utilized the technology difference between the new and old movies as a device.
It's just the shuttle bay with these really advanced looking robots wandering around in the background and then R2D2 and C3PO stumble off the shuttle into the scene. Very cute.
 
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  • #62
I loved the movie. But the guy who played Anakin brought the movie down. Although he did a better job than the one he did in AoTC. He totally ruined that movie. The actor who played little Anakin totally ruined TPM along with Jar-Jar. I always pictured Anakin as being this 7ft tall bad-ass that rips all the Jedi's a new *******. Oh well, movie was still great.

ESB is still my favorite, this movie almost ties with RoTJ as my second favorite.
 
  • #63
I see that this movie was more well received than the first 2 for sure :biggrin:

I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born...

Someone here mentioned the time in between RoTS and A New Hope - I'm thinking it was about 20 years based on Luke and Lea's ages. That's why you see Chewy but no Han Solo. Lucas actually could make another movie to fill the 20 year time span, call it "Star Wars 3 1/2 - Empire Building" :devil:
 
  • #64
ShadowKnight said:
I see that this movie was more well received than the first 2 for sure :biggrin:

I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born...

I think that's fairly easy, even though I might be wrong, since I haven't read any of the books or looked closely into the mythology.

The whole idea of ROTS is the demise of democracy in the galaxy, and its replacement by an absolute monarchy. The absolute ruler is the Emperor, and I'm sure there have to be local or regional rulers, in the guise of Kings/Queens, Princes and Princesses. It is most likely that Leia, either by coincidence, some strength of her character (noble blood) or perhaps even rumors of her past rose to the status of a local ruler in her region of Alderaan. Why Alderaan ? Because Bail Organa's homeworld is there, so Leia grew up there.

Remember that if the Emperor or Vader had known about Leia's ancestry, they would have at the least prevented her rise to power, more likely they'd have tried to turn her to get to Luke or kill her if she'd refused. But Vader didn't know, recall that scene in Return of the Jedi where Vader reads Luke's emotions to learn of "Sister Leia". In fact, prior to this, even when Leia was a prisoner (after she was taunted and her homeworld was destroyed in front of her eyes), she was being used as an incidental political pawn. not as bait for her brother.

Clearer now ? :smile:

Someone here mentioned the time in between RoTS and A New Hope - I'm thinking it was about 20 years based on Luke and Lea's ages. That's why you see Chewy but no Han Solo. Lucas actually could make another movie to fill the 20 year time span, call it "Star Wars 3 1/2 - Empire Building" :devil:

I understand Lucas is planning a TV series to fill the gap.
 
  • #65
Yeah, that would be a tv series I would watch. Don't know who they would use to play the role of Harrison Ford though. He's like an icon of Han Solo. Anyone else will be substandard, but Harrison is too old now.

Don't forget Boba Fett. In the second movie his father Jenga Fett is killed and little Boba picks up his father's helmet. That's heavy movie symbolism. I can see Boba and the Hutts being arch enemies of Han Solo and Chewbacca in a tv series.

I wasn't too concerned about how they wrapped up the plot between the old movies and the new ones. I kind of had that figured before I went to see the movie. The quetion that I found much more interesting was 'How the hell do those astromech droids get out of those small ships?' In the second movie a mechanism lowers R2 from a ship. In the third movie he pops right out and lands on his ... feet? I found it extremely unpractical, but humorous.
 
  • #66
I saw the movie on Friday.

I was _very_ pleased.

I was even able to suspend disbelief of the horrendous physics of the starship crashing on the planet in the beginning.
 
  • #67
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
 
  • #68
dduardo said:
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
I caught that too. I think that was a significant jump forward in the timeline. I like the way they recreated the bridge of the Star Destroyer from A New Hope for that scene.
 
  • #69
ShadowKnight said:
I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born..
Lea knew in ROTJ that her parents weren't her real parents. I guess it stands to reason then that she did know her real mom was a queen. However, that would make her real identity a pretty tough secret to keep. But who knows - maybe her father was a king before he was a senator.
 
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  • #70
dduardo said:
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
Well, it was only a frame, but yeah - it couldn't have been more than 5 years from EP4-EP6 and they pretty much built the entire 2nd death star. It shouldn't have taken the ~17 years from ep3 to ep4 to build the first. Other things, too - if Capt. Antilles (sp?) was already a captain at the end of ep3 when he got custody of the drones, he must have been a dismal failure to still be a captain 17 years later...

I'm guessing Obi Wan was ~35 at the end of ep3 - for ep4 he looks about 60. He didn't age well and he lost (or at least didn't use) some of his powers in ep4.

And Yoda - for someone who was still pretty spry at 883 years old, to die at 900 seems a little young.
 
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  • #71
He didn't die in the natural sense, heart failing, that kind of things, he felt his mission in life was over, so he chose to return to the Force..
 
  • #72
russ_watters said:
But who knows - maybe her father was a king before he was a senator.

Or a king afterwards.

If you'll remember from the first two, 'queen' seemed to be some sort of elected position on Naboo. It's possible it's supposed to be similar in other star systems.
 
  • #73
enigma said:
I was even able to suspend disbelief of the horrendous physics of the starship crashing on the planet in the beginning.

:smile: :smile: :smile:

All in all I thought the movie was pretty good.

That said, it seems that I have finally grown weary of Star Wars. I guess I have just seen too many uncontrolled re-entries, too many kidnappings and saber fights, too many big gooey things with teeth, too much android death, and too much oil spilled. :cry:
 

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