Is the Origin of Korotkoff Sounds Rooted in the Resonance of the Arterial Wall?

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The discussion centers on the current understanding of Korotkoff sounds, particularly in light of a 2015 paper proposing that these sounds arise from the arterial wall acting as a resonant system, producing transient excitations. This hypothesis has garnered some acceptance, but critiques exist, suggesting that the understanding of Korotkoff sounds remains complex and not fully settled. The interest in this topic ties into broader discussions about blood pressure (BP) measurement techniques. It is emphasized that BP readings are dynamic snapshots influenced by various factors, including patient anxiety and physiological changes, rather than static values. Clinicians must navigate these uncertainties, often requiring multiple measurements to account for variability and ensure accurate assessments.
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What is the "official" thinking today about the origin of Korotkoff sounds?

Has this 2015 paper found general acceptance?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1933171115007068

The idea IIUC is that the stretched arterial wall acts as a resonant system, and what we hear are transient excitations of this resonator.

Have there been critiques of this hypothesis?
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Um, why is this of interest....?
It might be related to their recent thread asking about taking BP measurements:

Swamp Thing said:
Is it ok to gently squeeze the bulb just after crossing the systolic or diastolic threshold, just to make sure of the exact value?
 
Oooh. Not a good assumption. BP mensuration results are a snapshot of a changing system. It is not a fixed unchanging declaration of a static system, more like a sample.

Its is a hydrostatic pressure measurement at a moment in time:
From the text above:
The pressure in a liquid at a given depth is called the hydrostatic pressure. This can be calculated using the hydrostatic equation: P = rho * g * d, where P is the pressure, rho is the density of the liquid, g is gravity (9.8 m/s^2) and d is the depth (or height) of the liquid.

During measurement if the patient raises an arm it changes the result. Changes in hormone levels like cortisol can really mess up readings - e.g., a kid getting a BP who is petrified of the whole process. So the result is not necessarily indicative of other pathologies. Clinicians know this and have to deal with the uncertainty - maybe by getting a series of readings or giving the kid a lollipop. Or treating the result as a sample of a population of these readings, and have, through experience, generated a working idea of true outliers caused by medical problems. And otherwise just go with the result as frightened kid "normal"
 
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