Is the series (n!)/(n^n) convergent or divergent?

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series (n!)/(n^n). Participants are exploring various methods within the constraints of specific tests allowed for this analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts several approaches, including limit comparison and regular comparison tests, while expressing frustration over the limitations of the allowed methods. Other participants suggest comparing the series to a geometric series and consider the implications of using the ratio test, despite its restriction. There is also a suggestion to explore the convergence of a related series.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various insights and suggestions for alternative approaches. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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The original poster is restricted to using only the limit comparison test and a regular comparison test, which influences the direction of the discussion and the methods considered.

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I am to find whether the sum of (n!)/(n^n) converges or diverges. I tried both the limit comparison test, and a regular comparison test. (These are the only types of tests I am allowed to use.) So I tried several approaches:

Approach #1: (n!)/(n^n) > 1/(n^n)

Normally we use a setup like this to prove something with a p-series. However, the expression on the left side of the inequality isn't a p-series.

Approach #2: (n!)/(n^n) < n!

While this expression is true, it is not useful because the formula for the series is less than, not greater than, the series that is known to diverge.

Approach #3 (Limit comparison): an = (n!)/(n^n) ; bn = 1/(n^n)

an/bn = n!

The limit here is, unfortunately, infinite, and I have to stop here.

What other approach can I take that would result in more success?
 
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Hey joe_cool2 and welcome to the forums.

My intuitive guess is that your function will converge. One test to show this that seems appropriate would be the ratio test. Take a look at this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio_test
 
Hello, thanks for the welcome. It is much appreciated.

I am perfectly aware that it is often wise to use the ratio test in these situations with n!. However, I have been restrained to using specifically those two techniques mentioned earlier. Any ideas?
 
The idea is to compare your function to a geometric series. That is, you have to find an [itex]0\leq a<1[/itex] such that

[tex]\frac{n!}{n^n}\leq a^n[/tex]

for all n. If you can find such an a, then your series will converge. So we need to find an a such that

[tex]\frac{n!}{(an)^n}<1[/tex]

Try to show that the left hand side is decreasing from a certain point on.
 
Whenever factorial is involved in series, the ratio test is your best bet. :smile:
 
sharks said:
Whenever factorial is involved in series, the ratio test is your best bet. :smile:

He's not allowed to use it. Please read the thread first before responding.
 
Can you show that [itex]\sum\frac{n^n}{(n!)^n}[/itex] converges? If you can, then use the limit comparison test with that and your series.
 

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