Is the Series Sum of Cubes Necessarily Convergent?

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The discussion centers on whether the series sum of cubes of a convergent series necessarily converges. Participants explore this question through examples and reasoning related to conditional convergence and the behavior of specific sequences.

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  • One participant suggests that the series sum of cubes may not converge, particularly in the case of conditional convergence, and seeks examples to illustrate this.
  • Another participant argues that if the sum of x_n converges, then for sufficiently large n, the terms (x_n)^3 will be closer to zero than x_n/4, implying convergence of the sum of cubes.
  • A different participant points out that the previous argument holds for nonnegative series but not for general convergent series.
  • One participant provides a specific sequence example to demonstrate that while the sum of the sequence converges, the sum of its cubes diverges, referencing the behavior of the harmonic series.
  • Another participant corrects their earlier example, clarifying the signs in their sequence.
  • A later reply acknowledges the educational value of the counterexample in addressing the original question.

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Participants express differing views on the convergence of the sum of cubes, with some arguing for convergence under certain conditions while others provide counterexamples that suggest divergence. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants reference conditional convergence and the behavior of specific sequences, indicating that assumptions about the nature of convergence may affect the conclusions drawn. There are unresolved mathematical steps in the examples provided.

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Hi,
"Given that sum x_n converges, where x_n are real, does sum (x_n)^3 necessarily converge?"
My gut feeling is "no". When considering conditional convergent series. It may be that the cubing can increase the ratio of consecutive "groups of terms" (ie the terms in the series we consider as one during the ratio test) s.t. the series is no longer convergent.
M I right?
If so, how might I go about constructing an example?
Thanks!
 
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The sum of x_n converges,

Therefore, there is a value of N such that |x_n| < 1/2 for all n > N

For all n > N, (x_n)^3 is closer to 0 than x_n/4

Therefore the sum of (x_n)^3 converges.
 


Aleph:
That argument is correct for nonnegative series, but not for general convergent series.
 


I agree with g_edgar, hence I mentioned "conditional" convergence. :)
 


for all n define the finite sequence of n+1 elements

1/n^(1/3) , 1/(n*n^(1/3)), ..., 1/(n*n^(1/3))

when ... means n times 1/(n*n^(1/3)).

for all n, put those sequences on a row and look at the sequence a_i you get.

then sum (a_i) converges since for all n sum(a_i) < 1/(n*n^(1/3)) after some index N.
But sum(a_i^3) doesn't converge since the sum of cubes of any "short" sequence of index n is

1/n - 1/n^4 - ... - 1/n^4 = 1/n - 1/n^3 which behaves like 1/n as n grows

Thus sum(a_i) behaves like the harmonic series sum(1/n) which diverges.
 
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Sorry, meant 1/n^(1/3) , -1/(n*n^(1/3)), ..., -1/(n*n^(1/3))

with n times -1/(n*n^(1/3))
 


Well, I guess my mistake had some educational value, since the counter example answers the OP's question :smile:
 

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