Is the Sum of (n sin n) / (n^3 + 1) from 1 to Infinity Convergent or Divergent

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series given by the sum of (n sin n) / (n^3 + 1) from n equals 1 to infinity. Participants are exploring the behavior of this series as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using the comparison method and consider the behavior of the terms as n increases. There is a focus on the limit of the expression as n approaches infinity, particularly examining the oscillatory nature of sin n and its impact on convergence.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and clarifying the distinction between limits and sums. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of terms and the implications of the oscillatory behavior of sin n.

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There is a noted confusion between evaluating the limit of the sequence and the sum of the series, which has led to some miscommunication among participants.

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Homework Statement


the sum of (n sin n)/(n^3+1)
n from 1 to infinity

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The Attempt at a Solution


what I have done so far is using the comparison method by comparing this with n sin n/ n^3, but I don't know what's the next step and even if my comparison is correct or not
 
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-EquinoX- said:

Homework Statement


the sum of (n sin n)/(n^3+1)
n from 1 to infinity

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


what I have done so far is using the comparison method by comparing this with n sin n/ n^3, but I don't know what's the next step and even if my comparison is correct or not

Have you heard of L'Hopital's Rule?

The comparing method your using is also another way.

So, what happens to [n*sin(n)]/n^3 when n goes to infinity?
 
that's where I was stuck. I think it doesn't go anywhere therefore it doesn't exist. Am I right??
 
-EquinoX- said:
that's where I was stuck. I think it doesn't go anywhere therefore it doesn't exist. Am I right??

What's your argument for it not going anywhere?
 
well because sin n varies between -1 and 1. This what makes me think that the limit does not converges to some value
 
-EquinoX- said:
well because sin n varies between -1 and 1. This what makes me think that the limit does not converges to some value

Yes, but where does the denominator go?
 
it goes to infinity, so therefore it goes to 0?? Am I right?
 
-EquinoX- said:
it goes to infinity, so therefore it goes to 0?? Am I right?

Not so quick.

So, the denominator goes to infinity, and the numerator bounces around -1 and 1.

Can you replace sin(n) by something else? Like say, -1 or 1?
 
yeah If I replace it with either -1 or 1 both will most likely to reach 0 from both sides, from the negative sides and the positive sides.
 
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-EquinoX- said:
yeah If I replace it with either -1 or 1 both will most likely to reach 0 from both sides, from the negative sides and the positive sides.

So, why not just pick one?

So, we have 1/n^2, and [n*sin(n)]/n^3, and the original one.

Write down the comparisons, and you should be good to go.
 
  • #11
well we can simplify [n * sin n]/n^3 into sin n/n^2 right?? therefore the answer is 0?
 
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-EquinoX- said:
well we can simplify [n * sin n]/n^3 into sin n/n^2 right?? therefore the answer is 0?

Yeah, the answer is 0, but you have to deduce it now. Or I think you do. Sometimes they just ask for the solution.
 
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what do you mean by deduce?
 
  • #14
-EquinoX- said:
what do you mean by deduce?

Like, actually show the limit is 0.
 
  • #15
Excuse me, but the original question asked for the SUM of [itex]\frac{nsin(n)}{n^3+1}[/itex], not the limit of the sequence.
 
  • #16
HallsofIvy said:
Excuse me, but the original question asked for the SUM of [itex]\frac{nsin(n)}{n^3+1}[/itex], not the limit of the sequence.

Whoa! My mistake.
 

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