Is the Tension in Physics Problem 651N or 1302N?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to tension in a wire, specifically questioning the correct value of tension T5, which is stated as 651N in a solution manual. The original poster expresses disagreement with this value and proposes an alternative of 1302N based on their interpretation of forces acting on the wire.

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile their understanding of tension by considering the forces acting on the wire, questioning whether the tension should be the sum of opposing forces. Some participants clarify the definition of tension and suggest creating a free body diagram to better understand the forces involved.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the concept of tension, with some participants providing insights into common misunderstandings. While the original poster acknowledges the feedback, there is no explicit consensus reached regarding the interpretation of the problem.

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Participants note the importance of providing clear problem statements and diagrams, indicating that the original poster's format may have contributed to misunderstandings. There is an emphasis on adhering to homework guidelines for future posts.

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I am just doing problems in 3000 solved physics problems in physics and I disagree with one of the answers and wanted to see if I am just an idiot or not

This is the picture of the problem

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This the a picture of the solution in the book. It maybe hard to see the answers, but they say the tension in T5 should be 651N, this is what I disagree with.
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The Attempt at a Solution


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So they say that T5 is 651N, but I think it should be 1302N because technically you have 651N pulling the 5th wire to the left and 651N of force pulling the wire to the right. Am I incorrect about this?

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Yes, you are incorrect. The tension is the force across a cross section of a wire. If you make a free body diagram of any part of the wire, the force across a section of the wire is the tension T5. If he wire is being pulled from one direction with 651 N, then this is the force across a section of the wire, and therefore the tension.

Also, please post your work in more detail in the future and make sure your images are more readable. You should also write out the problem in text. See the link to the homework guidelines in my signature.
 
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So they say that T5 is 651N, but I think it should be 1302N because technically you have 651N pulling the 5th wire to the left and 651N of force pulling the wire to the right. Am I incorrect about this?
Yes, you are incorrect. This is a common misunderstanding about tension.

Consider, for instance, a wire attached to a hook on a wall. You pull the free end of the wire with a force of 651N so that the wire is taut. How much tension is the wire under? How much force is the wire exerting on the wall? How much force is the wall exerting on the wire?
 
Ahh I see now. Thanks for quick response guys that really helped me out. Sorry for incorrect format, I'll make sure to do it correctly next time.
 

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