Is the Time Required to Travel D Miles at S MPH the Same as D/2 Miles at 2S MPH?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of time required to travel two different distances at varying speeds, specifically whether the time to travel D miles at S mph is the same as the time to travel D/2 miles at 2S mph. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the relationship between distance, speed, and time.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially claims that the time required for both scenarios is equivalent, suggesting that both simplify to the same expression.
  • Another participant provides a specific example with numerical values to illustrate the time taken for each scenario, indicating a practical application of the concepts discussed.
  • A third participant corrects the initial misunderstanding by stating that the time required to travel distance D at speed S is actually D/S, not D*S, which challenges the initial claim.
  • A later reply proposes a different scenario where the distances and speeds are rearranged, concluding that under those conditions, the two scenarios would yield equal distances, thus suggesting a different perspective on the relationship between time, distance, and speed.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the units involved in the equation for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the equivalence of the two scenarios, with some asserting they are equal and others providing corrections that suggest they are not. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the initial claim of equivalence.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the initial assumptions made about the relationship between distance, speed, and time, particularly in the interpretation of the formulas involved. The discussion also highlights the potential for confusion regarding the mathematical expressions used.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in understanding the relationships between distance, speed, and time, particularly in mathematical contexts or those studying physics concepts related to motion.

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which is greater or are they equal

1) the time required to travel d miles at s miles per hour

or

2) the time required to travel d/2 miles at 2s miles per hour


I thought 1) is equivalent to d*s or ds

and I thought 2) is equivalent to

d/2 * 2s

which simplifies to

ds

so they're the same but my book says 1) is greater
 
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Suppose Adam travels at 10 mph. He wants to travel 40 miles. How long will it take him?
Suppose Bob travels 20 mph. He wants to travel 20 miles. How long will it take him?
 
The problem you're having here is that the time required to travel distance d at speed s is d/s, not d*s.
 
d/s = t, so rearranging this we get d = st

If the options were instead:

1) the distance traveled after t hours at s miles per hour

2) the distance traveled after t/2 an hour at 2s miles per hour

Then they would be equal, because using the rearranged equation we have

1) d = s*t
2) d = 2s*t/2 = s*t

Oh and by the way, to remember this equation, it should just be intuitive but if you can't do that, think about the units! Distance is measured in miles (or equivalent), time is measured in hours, and speed is measured in miles/hour. So from this you can quickly tell that speed = distance / time since miles per hour means miles / hours.
 

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