Is the Twin Paradox Resolved by Considering the Metric of Spacetime?

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The discussion revolves around the Twin Paradox in the context of special relativity and the implications of spacetime metrics. Participants explore the effects of traveling close to the speed of light on time dilation and aging, as well as the role of acceleration in resolving perceived paradoxes. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and interpretations of relativistic effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that traveling close to the speed of light results in time passing more slowly for the traveler compared to those remaining on Earth, leading to a form of "time travel" into the future.
  • One participant emphasizes that while traveling at high speeds, the traveler ages slower relative to Earth, but this explanation may oversimplify the concept.
  • Another participant proposes that circular motion can also lead to significant time dilation effects without traveling far from Earth.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of acceleration in the Twin Paradox, arguing that the accelerating twin cannot be assigned an inertial reference frame (IRF), which complicates the comparison of aging between the twins.
  • There is a contention regarding the use of spacetime metrics, with some arguing that the metric is a property of the spacetime around Earth and is essential for calculating proper time for each twin.
  • One participant asserts that the paradox arises from assigning IRFs incorrectly and that the resolution lies in recognizing the differences in motion and acceleration between the twins.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the resolution of the Twin Paradox, particularly regarding the role of acceleration and the assignment of inertial reference frames. There is no consensus on whether the introduction of spacetime metrics resolves the paradox definitively.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the Twin Paradox, noting that assumptions about inertial frames and the effects of acceleration are critical to understanding the situation. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of relativistic effects and the implications of spacetime metrics.

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when people say you can travel into the future by traveling close to the speed of light, does that mean relative to the earth? So technically, we are moving close to the speed of light relative to a distant object in the universe going that speed?
 
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lundyjb said:
when people say you can travel into the future by traveling close to the speed of light, does that mean relative to the earth? So technically, we are moving close to the speed of light relative to a distant object in the universe going that speed?

To put it simply, the faster you go, the slower time goes, which in turn, causes you to age slower.

You travel at 99% the speed of light for 1 week, acording to your clocks, you have been traveling for 1 week and you will have aged 1 week but the people on Earth would have experienced 100 years go by and would have aged by 100 years.

When you stop, you think only 1 week has passed, but when you look around you, you seem to be in the future.

People often think that traveling to the future often means teleporting or skipping time, this is not true.
 
uperkurk said:
To put it simply, the faster you go, the slower time goes, which in turn, causes you to age slower.

That might be putting it a bit too simply, as this (fairly common) statement often confuses people. Better would be "While you are moving relative to someone else, he will measure time passing more slowly for you than for him".
 
Yes but you can't end up in the same point of space. Picking the example given by uperkuk: Imagine you leave Earth with velocity of 0.99c in relation to Earth's reference frame. After 1 week passed in Earth reference frame, people on Earth would see you aging 100 years (because you're the one moving in relation to Earth). In your reference frame, Earth is the one moving at 0.99c, so you'd have aged 1 week and see people on Earth aging 100 years. This is apparently a paradox, called twins paradox. What doesn't make it a paradox is that if you came back to Earth, the acceleration necessary for your starship to come back would compensate, and that enters in the realm of general relativity.
 
1977ub said:
The twin paradox doesn't apply in the case where one twin is accelerating (circling) the whole time, since we can't give him an inertial frame in which to measure Earth as moving at .99c. His metric doesn't make sense, so the only one we need to consider is the Earth's.

I have to disagree - this is a well-known variant of the twin paradox.

The metric is a property of the spacetime in the vicinity of the earth, and we can use it to calculate the proper time experienced by each twin on their paths through that spacetime. There's no "his metric" or the "Earth's" metric.
 
Nugatory said:
I have to disagree - this is a well-known variant of the twin paradox.

The metric is a property of the spacetime in the vicinity of the earth, and we can use it to calculate the proper time experienced by each twin on their paths through that spacetime. There's no "his metric" or the "Earth's" metric.

The usual "paradox" comes from assigning each traveler an IRF. In one person's IRF, the other person's clock is slower. Viola - a "paradox". If one person is inertial, and the other person is circling, we only assign one IRF - to the inertial observer. The other is in constant acceleration, and thus we don't dignify his measurements as being an IRF. He can make no credible claim about the unaccelerated observer's clocks appearing to run slow. The unaccelerated twin with the IRF can however find the the accelerating twin has a clock that is running slow. There is only only account of slowing deriving from measurements in only one IRF. Voila - no paradox.

Introducing the "metric of spacetime" is part of the resolution to the paradox, eh? Once you've done that, we are no longer looking at a paradox.
 

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