Is the Upper West Side in NYC Safe for a Weekend Trip?

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The discussion revolves around the safety of the Upper West Side in New York City for a weekend trip, particularly focusing on nighttime activities and accommodations. Participants share their concerns about safety, local neighborhoods, and suggestions for places to visit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the safety of the Upper West Side, questioning if it is akin to a "ghetto" and seeking advice on areas to avoid, especially at night.
  • Another participant suggests that the Upper West Side is a wealthy neighborhood with families, implying it should be safe, but advises caution with valuables at night.
  • Some participants mention that while the Upper East Side has areas that may feel unsafe at night, the Upper West Side is generally considered posh.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about a robbery in NYC, highlighting the potential dangers of being out late.
  • There are suggestions to take a cab back to the hotel if the area feels sketchy upon arrival, emphasizing that even safe neighborhoods can pose risks at late hours.
  • Another participant humorously suggests an extreme method to avoid trouble, which is met with a dismissive response.
  • Several participants recommend various attractions and activities in NYC, such as museums, parks, and iconic landmarks, while noting that the nightlife options were not specifically recommended.
  • One participant contrasts their experiences in DC and Baltimore with NYC, expressing a desire for unique New York experiences rather than shopping.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the safety of the Upper West Side at night. While some believe it is generally safe, others express concerns about being out late and the potential for danger. Multiple competing views remain regarding the safety of different neighborhoods and the overall experience in NYC.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and perceptions of safety in various neighborhoods, which may be influenced by individual backgrounds and prior experiences in urban environments. There is a lack of specific information about the exact location of the hotel, which contributes to the uncertainty in the discussion.

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Hi guys,

I want to go to NY with my friend for the weekend. We found a place that's cheap $110 a night for two of us, so $55 bucks each. It says its in the "Upper west side". Is this "upper west side" aka the ghetto? I don't want to accidentally get a room that's in the South East, D.C. of NY. Where are the places to stay away from? Keep in mind, were going out at night and coming back to the hotel at probably 2 or 3 am. Also, anyone know any good places to go at night and during the day? So far we found a place called 'top of the rock', which seems pretty cool. http://www.topoftherocknyc.com/

We don't care so much for good resturants or stores, because we already have plenty of that here in DC. We basically want a kick ass night life. (Last weekend I was in Baltimore getting free shots from Vanilla Ice :smile:)
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Hi guys,

I want to go to NY with my friend for the weekend. We found a place that's cheap $110 a night for two of us, so $55 bucks each.
Don't forget taxes and other little things they could tack onto the bill.
 
Im not familiar with NYC, so I want to know the areas. We figured it would cost at least 100 per person per night stay at a really cheap dump since NYC is so expensive. We were going to go to Altantic City on friday and NYC on saturday, but the hotel and travel time cost too much money. (We didnt realize how far out of the way AC is until we mapquested it).
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
Keep in mind, were going out at night and coming back to the hotel at probably 2 or 3 am.
If you're looking for safe places, this "2 or 3 a.m." sounds like a deal breaker to me. I read a news story about a robbery there. Four innocent bystanders were wounded. Who knew there were four innocent people in NYC?
 
Georgetown is one of the best (richest) parts of DC. Its not "safe" at 2-3 am at night, but its *NOT* south east DC where you have drug dealers walking around constantly and people getting shot up. I am asking if its safe within reason.
 
Exactly what street is the hotel at? Upper west side is a rich neighbourhood with families living there, so I think you should be fine. Just make sure not to carry a lot of cash/expensive things around at that time of night.
 
The upper east side (at least east of Columbia University) is the Harlem neighborhood. I wouldn't call it dangerous, but I wouldn't want to walk by myself there late at night. The upper west side has a lot of posh neighborhood, as Monique has said. But you really need to narrow down the neighborhood area, because NY City can change literally by the block.

Zz.
 
Or, if you're not sure or it looks sketchy when you arrive, just take a cab back from wherever you are at night to the door of the hotel so you aren't walking around in a bad neighborhood. Then again, even a "good" neighborhood can be dangerous walking around alone at 2 or 3 a.m.
 
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dress like a bum and rub horse **** all over yourself. Nobody will mess with you.
 
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o-kay........ anyways. My friend got sick and so we might have to go next weekend instead.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Keep in mind, were going out at night and coming back to the hotel at probably 2 or 3 am.

2 or 3 am? Lousy.
 
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Places close early in the US.
 
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This is so funny. When out-of-state people think of NYC, the first thing pops into their heads are the ghettos. If you're that worried then go upstate.

The upper west side [and upper east side] are perfectly good places, even if you drop the Harlem factor in. Are the stores about Harlem that frightening? While in NYC, take a ride on the trains; enjoy the fresh fragrance of the subways and train stations.
 
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Thats becaue I live near Baltimore and DC, which are full of ghettos. So I've been to them before and I don't want to visit one in NYC. I can take you to some ghetto places around here.

Also, I am not going to NYC for stores. I already have tons of stores where I live. As for the trains, thank god the DC transit system is so clean. Its a really really nice metro system we have.

I want things to do in NYC that are 'new york' things to do/see. I.e., if you were in DC, I'd take you to the smithsonian, the monuments, Georgetown, Virginia, Maryland, Baltimore, get crabcakes.

If I put you in DC or baltimore, would you know what areas to say away from ranger?
 
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I meant to say "stories about Harlem" - that was a typo.

Since your hotel is in the Upper West Side area you'd obviously want to see the Statue of Liberty, Times Square, Museums ( I recommend The Metropolitan Museum of Art), Rockefeller Center, Empire State Building, take a stroll down Wall Street (along with NYSE and Ground Zero). I heard that Fifth Avenue is a big deal, looks normal to me.
I remember that earlier in the summer there were free concerts like everyday in Central Park. I'm not sure if its still happening.
Not sure if its your thing, but check out Chinatown. I'm not too fond of that area, but I heard its a good place i.e. affordable place for shopping and eating.
Go to see some of the bridges. Take a ferry or boat ride. Don't forget that NYC is the home of the Mets and Yankees, you can check out the stadiums.
If you're going into Queens, check out Flushing Meadows Corona Park and Forest Park. Also don't forget Shae Stadium and Arthur Ashe Stadium.
If you drop by Brooklyn, the best section in IMO is Downtown Brooklyn,
You'd also want to check out pizza and calzones from a pizzeria that makes them using a traditional brick oven.
I can't recommend any night spots.

I had my fair share of ghettos. So its not like I piss my pants nor is staying away from them an issue for me.
 

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