Is the Wave Packet a Valid Solution of the Schrödinger Equation?

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The discussion centers on whether a wave packet is a valid solution of the Schrödinger equation, exploring contexts such as the presence or absence of potential. Participants examine theoretical implications and the nature of wave packets in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the validity of a wave packet as a solution depends on the potential present; specifically, it is not a solution in the presence of a potential.
  • Others argue that in the absence of potential, the Hamiltonian describes a free field, allowing wave packets to be solutions that evolve over time.
  • A participant highlights the linearity of the Schrödinger equation, suggesting that wave packets can still be constructed through superposition of solutions even with a potential.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical formulation of the time-dependent Schrödinger equation, indicating that wave packets can be expressed as integrals over energy eigenstates.
  • Concerns are raised about the definition of "wave packet," with some suggesting that if it is defined as a Gaussian-like function, its behavior may change under the influence of a potential, potentially losing its localized form over time.
  • One participant describes the behavior of a wave packet in a square well potential, noting that it may not remain localized and could spread out over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether wave packets are valid solutions of the Schrödinger equation, as multiple competing views remain regarding the influence of potential on their validity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of different potentials on the behavior of wave packets, and there are unresolved questions about the precise definitions and conditions under which wave packets maintain their characteristics.

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In a QM introductory book , I have read that the wave packet is not a solution of the Schrödinger equation, is this true in some context or is it just an mistake of the author?
 
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It depends on the potential. If there is a potential, then the wave packet is not a solution. If there is no potential, then the Hamiltonian describes a free field, in which case a wave packet is a solution, and the Schrödinger equation describes how the packet moves and spreads out through time. The easiest way to see this is to break the wave packet apart into different energy eigenstates (this is just a Fourier expansion), which are trivial solutions of the SE.
 
Chopin said:
It depends on the potential. If there is a potential, then the wave packet is not a solution. If there is no potential, then the Hamiltonian describes a free field, in which case a wave packet is a solution, and the Schrödinger equation describes how the packet moves and spreads out through time. The easiest way to see this is to break the wave packet apart into different energy eigenstates (this is just a Fourier expansion), which are trivial solutions of the SE.

Why? The Schrödinger equation is linear also in the presence of a potential, so you can still create a wave packet solution by superposing an infinity of solutions (all solutions if the system with potential of course).

Or does the "wave packet" terminology imply a gaussian weighted integral over free states? As far as I'm concerned, any localized traveling wave solution is a "wave packet".
 
Look at the time-dep. S.eq.

[tex]i\partial_t u_E(x,t) = Hu_E(x,t) = Eu_E(x,t)[/tex]

which is solved by

[tex]u_E(x,t) = e^{-iEt}u_E(x)[/tex]

with some dispersion relation

[tex]E=E(k) = k^2/2m[/tex]

where the last equality holds for the free particle.

A wave packet is defined as

[tex]\psi(x,t) = \int dk\,e^{-iEt}u_E(x)\,a(k)[/tex]

Applying the operator

[tex][i\partial_t - H][/tex]

this vanishes identically which shows that the wave packet[tex]\psi(x,t)[/tex] is indeed a solution.

For a non-vanishing potential one has to use the solution [tex]u_E(x,t)[/tex]; the factorization [tex]u_E(x,t) = e^{-iEt}u_E(x)[/tex] derived for vanishing potential is no longer valid.
 
torquil said:
Why? The Schrödinger equation is linear also in the presence of a potential, so you can still create a wave packet solution by superposing an infinity of solutions (all solutions if the system with potential of course).

Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "wave packet". If you define it as "some Gaussian-looking thing that moves around and spreads out, but always looks like a Gaussian", then I'm pretty sure it's only true if you don't have a potential. Of course you can always set up something that looks like a Gaussian at a specific point in time, the key is whether it will continue to look like one after time evolution. I can't remember exactly what will happen if you try that in a potential--one would assume that if you did it in a very very weak potential field it would still basically look like a Gaussian, but in general I don't think it's going to stay very well localized if you've got something strong like a big square well or an SHO or something. In the particular case of a square well, I know it will slosh around between the walls, and interfere with itself, and eventually settle down to pretty much occupying the entire square well evenly. So in that case, it's probably valid to say that it's no longer a wave packet.
 

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