Is there a correlation between birth month and disease risk?

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The discussion centers around the correlation between birth months and astrological signs, specifically addressing the confusion surrounding the dates of Pisces and Aries. Participants share personal anecdotes related to their birth dates and the implications of leap years on astrological signs. The conversation also touches on the nature of astrology, with some arguing that it should be viewed as an art rather than a science, emphasizing the importance of a full natal chart over simplistic sun sign astrology. Skepticism is expressed regarding astrology's predictive capabilities, with some participants suggesting that perceived correlations may stem from psychological biases. Overall, the thread highlights a blend of personal experiences and differing beliefs about the validity and relevance of astrology.
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Before I suggested that cosmic ray's may be shielded by planets and/or that that there will be Einstein lens effects. Changes in X-rays may influence the starting conditions of cell dividing and also the dividing conditions during the growth of the embryo (three basic layers: endoderm, ectoderm and mesoderm).

On next link you can see how that happens. Here it is a rare event but this happens all the time with our planets.

http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/04_releases/press_040504.html

Quote: "A rare celestial event was captured by NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory as Titan -- Saturn's largest moon and the only moon in the Solar System with a thick atmosphere -- crossed in front of the X-ray bright Crab Nebula. The X-ray shadow cast by Titan allowed astronomers to make the first X-ray measurement of the extent of its atmosphere.

On January 5, 2003, Titan transited the Crab Nebula, the remnant of a supernova explosion that was observed to occur in the year 1054. Although Saturn and Titan pass within a few degrees of the Crab Nebula every 30 years, they rarely pass directly in front of it.

"This may have been the first transit of the Crab Nebula by Titan since the birth of the Crab Nebula," said Koji Mori of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, and lead author on an Astrophysical Journal paper describing these results. "The next similar conjunction will take place in the year 2267, so this was truly a once in a lifetime event."
 
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  • #102
Astrology has been a hobbie of mine for 4 years now...it is somethign that i believe is a guideline for human thought and emotions...u can't judge a book by its cover but if u read the back u have an insight as to what it may offer you... also the goal for any human is self realization.. astrology has opened me up to myself..if u are skeptical u ought to read up on your signs and see if u can relate...if not then maybe it isn't meant for u..ive tried convincing people about its legitimacy,but some people are to tarnished by our "logical" society...its not about predicting the future..its about knowing thyself and others
 
  • #103
according to astrology, this year is my year the year of the VIRGO
 
  • #104
Did anyone ever answer the original question here? There's about a three day "gray area" called a "cusp" at the beginning and end of each sign's month. People born in those few days are supposed to have some characteristics of both signs. I'm born right between Libra and Scorpio, which means I get to like both red and blue :-) It's all good entertainment. Sometimes when I'm having a bad day, I go read my horoscope for a pick-me-up...they always say things will be better than they are.
 
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Moonbear said:
Did anyone ever answer the original question here? There's about a three day "gray area" called a "cusp" at the beginning and end of each sign's month. People born in those few days are supposed to have some characteristics of both signs. I'm born right between Libra and Scorpio, which means I get to like both red and blue :-)

You can check the ephemerides on this site: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/jekyll/75/fm.html
If I remember well the changes are due the changes in the angle of the Earth axis rotation. An identical interposition (of all 10 "planets") takes about 16,000 years.
 
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Moonbear said:
Did anyone ever answer the original question here? There's about a three day "gray area" called a "cusp" at the beginning and end of each sign's month. People born in those few days are supposed to have some characteristics of both signs. I'm born right between Libra and Scorpio, which means I get to like both red and blue :-) It's all good entertainment. Sometimes when I'm having a bad day, I go read my horoscope for a pick-me-up...they always say things will be better than they are.

yes moonbear, i answered saint his question in a private message. because he is on the opposite side of the world as i am, determining his "sun sign" was a little more of a challenge then i am used to. in order for me to have calculated where the ecliptic of the Earth was, i had to ask him for the time and place of birth as well as the date. interesting to note, many do not realize all of the facts that astrology is based on---the personal interpretation is what is so subjective.
 
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Heres a thought...

the bipolar disorder...someone needs to conduct a survey on the percentages of people that have been diagnosed with this "disorder" with their zodiacs on a cusp...i looked into it a little cause me myself am a cancer/gemini and i have this "disorder"..my brother is a capricorn/sagittarius and he to is bi polar...kurt kobain was a picses/aquarius and was also diagnosed... the term bipolar says a lot right there..having a mix of positive and negative energy..causing a turmoil of emotion and thought...im just curious as to what the results would yield...if anyone has any info let me know..thanx
 
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MagneticEnergies said:
the bipolar disorder...someone needs to conduct a survey on the percentages of people that have been diagnosed with this "disorder" with their zodiacs on a cusp...i looked into it a little cause me myself am a cancer/gemini and i have this "disorder"..my brother is a capricorn/sagittarius and he to is bi polar...kurt kobain was a picses/aquarius and was also diagnosed... the term bipolar says a lot right there..having a mix of positive and negative energy..causing a turmoil of emotion and thought...im just curious as to what the results would yield...if anyone has any info let me know..thanx
I don't think bipolar disorder is related to these cusps.
The basic aspects of the Moon will play an essential role in the radix horoscope (birth) in relation to bipolar disorder.
The transits (actual planets) will activate them shortly, and also the aspects in progression over a longer time.
 
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Scientists link month of birth to diseases

Pisces (Feb. 19 - March 20): Governed by Neptune and symbolized by the fish. Compassionate, introspective, artistic. Often dreamy and impractical. May be prone to schizophrenia, epilepsy or bipolar disorder.

It may sound like some kind of new, madcap astrology, but a number of scientists are becoming convinced that our birth month may predispose us to particular diseases later in life. [continued]

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/171836-6908-010.html
 
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  • #110
thanks for the link ivan :smile: this correlates with true astrology's theme-we are all apart of the universe cycling around one another, where many today try so hard to separate "us" from our environment...
 
  • #111
What amazes me are the number of attacks on Astrology that I have heard based on the notion that no relationship between birth month, health, state of mind, or the personalilty of a person. Considering that if only now are we learning that something as definitive as bipolar disorder may be related to one's DOB, this tells me that many attacks on this subject are premature and misguided; at best. If this report is correct then obviously we can't yet know if Astrology works. Any "proof" based attacks against astrology are either incorrect, or pseudoscience.

Note that I do not "believe" in Astrology.
 
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  • #112
I did my own tests a while ago based on DOB. I thought that people born later were generally less intelligent unless in a very stable and guidable family enviroment. Also attached and unattached earlobes was another thing I noticed was linked. So DOBs do make a difference in my opinion. I was born 'late' and I have unattached earlobes but I am still quiet intelligent. However I have always struggled in English lessons and have my moments of stupidity. My friend, however, was born in October (btw, I am talking an acedemic year) and he has no problem in an subject. His earlobes are attached. Just some interesting points I found about people's DOBs. It isn't always true but I have found it to be in about 75% of people at my school.

The Bob (2004 ©)

P.S. I apologise if this has wondered into the theory side of things but really it is my opinion with a little evidence, not a theory.
 
  • #113
DOB and school performance is more often related to one's maturity for their grade level. If you're born near the end of the year cut-off for enrollment in school, you can be almost a year younger than some of your classmates. I'm an October birthday and very close to the cut-off used way back when I entered Kindergarten (at the time, it was Nov 1). At that time, they tested children that close to the cut-off to determine if they were mature enough to enter that year's class, or wait a year to start school. I guess I passed the test. I was always the youngest kid in the class, though it really didn't hurt me much I suppose. A kid down the block from me had a birthday very close to mine and was recommended to start a year later.

As for the other topic brought up of month of birth relating to disease risk, the studies are far too inconsistent in what they find. I can find two papers, published within the same year, that will say there is a correlation between birth month and breast cancer risk, and then one says they found a peak in October, and the other in May. And when you look at the actual data, it's all over the place! Believe me, I was hoping there was a correlation, so was disappointed to see such inconsistent results (the reasons I was hoping for a correlation are a whole different subject, so I won't go into it here).
 
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