Is there a fractional frequency of light?

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The discussion centers on the concept of fractional frequencies of light within the electromagnetic wave (EMW) spectrum, asserting that if the spectrum is continuous, infinite wavelengths and fractional frequencies, such as 25.2 Hertz, are indeed possible. It emphasizes that lasers are the primary sources for producing interference patterns due to their monochromatic nature, despite the fact that no light source is perfectly monochromatic. The conversation also highlights the significance of unit choice in representing frequencies, noting that numerical correlations can often be artifacts of these choices rather than reflecting physical realities.

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If emw spectrum is continuous, possible wavelengths should be infinite and there should be fraction of frequencies like 25,2 hertz. Well is there a fractional frequency of light?
In high school when we are teaching interference of light we say "only the same wavelength of lights interfere with each other because of that we are using a monochromatic light source". If the spectrum is infinite, the only way to have monochromatic light and see the interference pattern becomes lasers.
 
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There are fractional frequencies - any frequency is allowed.
Even with a laser, I could move the laser device towards you or away from you and the Doppler effect would finely adjust the frequency and wavelength.

As a matter of practicality, lasers are the way to produce interference patterns with light.
 
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Mustafa Bayram said:
If emw spectrum is continuous, possible wavelengths should be infinite and there should be fraction of frequencies like 25,2 hertz. Well is there a fractional frequency of light?
In high school when we are teaching interference of light we say "only the same wavelength of lights interfere with each other because of that we are using a monochromatic light source". If the spectrum is infinite, the only way to have monochromatic light and see the interference pattern becomes lasers.
There is no such thing as a perfectly monochromatic source: all sources send out light over a certain bandwith; this also includers lasers. That is, the spectrum of light contains "peaks" rather than "lines".,
 
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Mustafa Bayram said:
there should be fraction of frequencies like 25,2 hertz
Sure. 25.2 hertz is 25200 kHz, or 25200000 megahertz…. and those numbers would look completely different if we reported the frequency in cycles per fortnight instead of cycles per second.

Exact non-fractional values and remarkable numerical correlations between otherwise unrelated quantities are most often artifacts of our choice of units, with no physical significance.
 
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Nugatory said:
25.2 hertz is 25200 kHz, or 25200000 megahertz ...
Misplaced decimal points?
 
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Hyperfine said:
Misplaced decimal points?
No, an example of how choice of units definitions affects numerical values.
 
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Nugatory said:
correlations between otherwise unrelated quantities are most often artifacts of our choice of units, with no physical significance.
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phinds said:
No, an example of how choice of units definitions affects numerical values.
Then remove the word "is". As stated it equates 25.2 Hz with 25200 KHz. That is not a choice of units, it is simply an error.
 
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Hyperfine said:
Then remove the word "is". As stated it equates 25.2 Hz with 25200 KHz. That is not a choice of units, it is simply an error.
Of course it's an error - responding quickly while on the road. The general point about units is valid, the numbers are wrong.
 
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Nugatory said:
Of course it's an error - responding quickly while on the road. The general point about units is valid, the numbers are wrong.
Exactly. My concern was that distinction may well not be so obvious within a class B thread. Thus I pointed it out.
 
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