Is there a negative stigma with applied physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived stigma associated with pursuing a degree in applied physics compared to traditional physics or engineering disciplines. Participants explore the implications of this stigma on career prospects, particularly in fields like robotics engineering, and the perceptions held by both students and professionals in the engineering community.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the "applied" label may lead to perceptions of lesser rigor compared to core physics or engineering degrees.
  • One participant mentions that their dean indicated the applied physics program is a legitimate alternative for those interested in engineering research, though perceptions may vary.
  • Another participant expresses that while they find applied physics interesting and important, there exists a notion among some physics students that those pursuing applied physics are "sell outs" or not as capable.
  • Some participants note that certain areas of physics, like quantum gravity or astrophysics, are viewed as more prestigious, potentially contributing to the stigma against applied physics.
  • There is a mention of a divide among engineering graduates regarding interest in applied versus theoretical physics, with some viewing applied physics as less desirable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the stigma associated with applied physics, with some acknowledging its existence while others argue it is not a significant issue. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and impact of this stigma.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that perceptions may vary by region and institution, and that the stigma may not be universally held among all engineering or physics students.

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I'm currently a physics major. I plan to study robotics engineering in grad school (haven't decided if I'll do it through ME, EE, CS, or a robotics specific program). I've recently realized, though, that if I change my major to applied physics, I'll be able to take electives that will be more useful to me (controls and automation) instead of quantum.

However, I've heard several engineers say that they'd rather not hire an "applied engineer" because they tend to be less rigorous. Is there a similar stigma with applied physics?
 
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I can imagine someone seeing the "applied" label and thinking you did it because you were not good enough for the core degree track in some way.

However, it also depends where you go and what you do.
But remember that the course track exists for a reason - you should take advise from your Dean or similar official.
 
No, I do not think this is a problem.
 
Thank you, that's helpful. I did talk to my dean, who said it shouldn't be a problem. He said the program was created as an alternative route for people who wanted to do research in engineering and other fields, because the physics gave it a research oriented course load. However, people often perceive our actions differently than we do. So, I wanted to see how it appeared to people outside of my university.
 
fequalsma said:
I'm currently a physics major. I plan to study robotics engineering in grad school (haven't decided if I'll do it through ME, EE, CS, or a robotics specific program). I've recently realized, though, that if I change my major to applied physics, I'll be able to take electives that will be more useful to me (controls and automation) instead of quantum.

However, I've heard several engineers say that they'd rather not hire an "applied engineer" because they tend to be less rigorous. Is there a similar stigma with applied physics?

I didn't know that engineers had split into "applied" and "theoretical" camps of late. You must have talked to a rogue group who hung around too much with physicists.
 
I think applied physics is interesting and important and I am doing applied physics. However at least with physics students many of them want to study esoteric disciplines like quantum gravity and become Einstein; these disciplines don't draw enough grant money relative to applied physics. Only the "cleverest" students get to study them, and so there is something of a notion that applied physics students are sell outs or not as good. But this notion isn't completely widespread.
 
^I know several engineering grads who want to get into geophysics and astrophysics, but the thing is that when someone thinks of "cool" physics they are probably referring to the hard core BCS superconductivity or string theory or quantum gravity or astrophysics. Applied Physics in my country is actually an afterthought, generally pursued by people with interdisciplinary bent of mind. I am an engineering graduate but what I study in my academic career roughly falls into engineering physics. I do find it very interesting, but most people I know do not share that line of thought. :)
 

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