Is there a pattern to determine which angles will create a cyclic sequence?

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The discussion revolves around identifying conditions under which a sequence of angles defined by \(\theta_n = n\theta \bmod 2\pi\) becomes cyclic. Participants explore the implications of rational multiples of \(\pi\) in this context.

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  • Participants examine the relationship between the angle \(\theta\) and the cyclic nature of the sequence, questioning whether rational multiples of \(\pi\) guarantee cyclicity. There is also exploration of limits involving complex numbers and their behavior as \(n\) approaches infinity.

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Some participants express confidence in the assertion that rational multiples of \(\pi\) create cyclic sequences. Others provide insights into related limits involving complex numbers, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a definitive consensus on all aspects.

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Participants reference limits and properties of complex numbers, indicating a potential overlap with broader mathematical concepts, though specific assumptions or constraints are not explicitly stated.

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[SOLVED] Cyclic Sequence of Angles

Fix an angle \theta. Let n be a positive integer and define \theta_n = n\theta \bmod 2\pi.

The sequence \theta_1, \theta_2, \ldots is cyclic if if it starts repeating itself at some point, i.e. the sequence has the form \theta_1, \ldots, \theta_k, \theta_1 \ldots.

What I would like to find out is: For which angles \theta is the sequence \{\theta_n\} cyclic? If for some integer m > 1, \theta_1 = \theta_m \equiv \theta = m\theta, then m\theta = \theta + 2\pi x for some non-negative integer x. Solving for \theta, I get \theta = 2\pi x / (m - 1). So it seems that any rational multiple of \pi will create a cyclic sequence. Is this correct?
 
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Yes. Any rational multiple of pi creates a cyclic sequence. Why are you insecure about this?
 
This all began when I started contemplating about the limit as n approaches infinity of zn, z being complex with |z| < 1. If I represent z as r(cos t + isin t), zn = rn(cos nt + isin nt). If {nt} is cyclic, then I could break up the sine and cosine terms, multiply through by rn and apply the limit on each term. Each term goes to 0 because r < 1 so the limit is 0. Right?
 
Yes, but you don't have to worry about 'cyclic' |cos nt+i*sin nt| is bounded, since |cos|<=1 and |sin|<=1. Regardless of the arguments. So if you multiply by r^n with r<1, the result certainly goes to 0.
 
That makes sense. So for any complex z with |z| < 1, zn goes to 0 as n goes to infinity. I began feeling paranoid about this when I was trying to compute the limit of nzn as n goes to infinity. I rewrote this as n/z-n and applied l'Hopital's rule to get -zn/log z. I wasn't sure about the limit of zn here, but now I am. Thanks.
 
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