The discussion explores the concept of whether there is an analogous "lift" in quantum fields similar to aerodynamic lift in air. Participants consider the implications of quantum vacuum properties and the nature of quantum fields in relation to the idea of lift.
Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the analogy between quantum fields and aerodynamic lift, with no consensus reached on the existence of a quantum lift concept.
Participants reference the nature of quantum fields and their collapse, but the discussion lacks clarity on the definitions and implications of these concepts in relation to the analogy proposed.
That's completely false. People have been observing birds and insects fly for as long there have been people. Nobody serious ever thought that heavier-than-air flight was impossible. The problem was how to achieve it.Blue Scallop said:I just rode an airplane and thought that prior to the wright brothers.. people never thought machines can be heavier than air.. then the principle of lift was discovered..
Quantum fields are not made up of something we are moving through, so the analogy doesn't work.Blue Scallop said:is there a counterpart in the quantum vacuum for this "lift".. if not, how come?
DrClaude said:That's completely false. People have been observing birds and insects fly for as long there have been people. Nobody serious ever thought that heavier-than-air flight was impossible. The problem was how to achieve it.Quantum fields are not made up of something we are moving through, so the analogy doesn't work.
I'm sorry, but that's gobbledygook.Blue Scallop said:Quantum fields are defined all over space.. but it also undergoes collapse.. can't the collapsed part be analogous to "air"?