We can't unite QM with GR because of what the Qfield is capable of

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The discussion revolves around the capabilities of the quantum field and its implications for uniting quantum mechanics (QM) with general relativity (GR). Participants explore concepts such as superposition, entanglement, tunneling, and the nature of quantum waves in relation to spatial distance and decoherence.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the quantum field may have capabilities beyond known phenomena like superposition, entanglement, and tunneling.
  • There is a proposition that if the quantum field does not care about spatial distance, unobserved quantum waves could be considered to exist everywhere within the field.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that the quantum field is indifferent to spatial distance.
  • A claim is made that decoherence could be predestined due to the omnipresence of the quantum field, which is said to "know" about decoherence events.
  • The delayed choice quantum eraser is mentioned as evidence that a particle can "know" about its entangled partner's decoherence before it occurs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the quantum field and its implications for QM and GR. There is no consensus on the assumptions regarding spatial distance and the behavior of quantum waves.

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Some participants highlight the need for more specific terminology and references to support claims, indicating that personal speculation may not be well-received in this context.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the intersection of quantum mechanics and general relativity, particularly in the context of theoretical physics and interpretations of quantum phenomena.

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Do all of our problems uniting QM with GR have to do with what the quantum field is capable of?
I think it can do more than the wave only events we know of (superposition, entanglement, and tunneling).

If the quantum field doesn't care about spatial distance, does that mean every unobserved quantum wave is already everywhere throughout the quantum field? Does it explain spooky action at a distance and the delayed choice quantum eraser?
I think we are going to find the Quantum Field is a bit like the internet cloud. All Quantum waves have access to it.

Does a quantum wave, that is destined to decohere, behave differently than one that isn't?

Decay of Coherence is something that can happen to decoherent particles. Coherent matter-waves do not decay.

The reason decoherence can be predestined is because the quantum field is everywhere and already knows of the decoherece events.
Unobserved waves do not travel in spatial dimensions.

The delayed choice quantum eraser demonstrates a particle of a pair landing on its final panel first, knowing if it's entangled brother will decohere in its path.
 
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quantuminternet said:
If the quantum field doesn't care about spatial distance

Why do you think it doesn't?
 
quantuminternet said:
Summary:: Do all of our problems uniting QM with GR have to do with what the quantum field is capable of?

I think it can do more than the wave only events we know of (superposition, entanglement, and tunneling).
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:welcome:

You are new to posting here. You might not be aware that most personal speculation is not allowed. Further, you should provide a more specific reference (or more standard terminology) to enable someone to answer.

The possible unification of QM/QFT and GR is a very big subject. Many attempts have been made to unify them, certainly more than could be discussed in a single thread. Perhaps you might find a way to rephrase your questions into something that invites a more specific answer.

Cheers!
 
With that we will close this thread. Please be aware that interpretations questions belong in the interpretations sub forum, and that in that sub forum it is more important than most sections to have your posts be properly supported by the professional scientific literature
 

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