Is there a theoretical min. size/mass limit to a black hole?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical limits of black hole mass, particularly whether black holes can exist with masses significantly smaller than those formed from stellar remnants. Participants explore concepts related to primordial black holes, evaporation processes, and the implications of cosmic background radiation on black hole stability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that black holes with masses less than about five solar masses are unlikely to form, but could theoretically evaporate down to Planck mass over an extremely long time.
  • It is proposed that smaller black holes are "hotter" and evaporate faster, but their stability may depend on their environment and the radiation they can absorb.
  • One participant mentions that the theoretical minimum mass for a black hole is the Planck mass, which would evaporate quickly.
  • There is a discussion about primordial black holes potentially forming shortly after the Big Bang and their current existence, with references to their evaporation into detectable x-ray explosions.
  • Questions arise regarding the uniformity of primordial black hole distribution and the methods used to estimate their density based on gamma ray background measurements.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the detected gamma ray background is unique to primordial black hole explosions or if other processes could produce similar radiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the existence and stability of small black holes, with no consensus reached on the theoretical limits of black hole mass or the implications of primordial black holes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainties regarding the formation and stability of black holes of varying masses, as well as the assumptions underlying the measurements of gamma ray backgrounds and their interpretations.

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Normally a star with a mass several times that of the sun will become a black hole at the end of the lifetime of that star. Can black holes exist with a mass much smaller than that exist? In other words, are black holes with a mass of Jupiter or even Earth exist? Or even much smaller than that?
I can remember having read somewhere that a theory of Stephen Hawking predicts that (small) black holes in time will evaporate. So is there a theoretical limit of mass a black hole should have?
This question arose when some people mentioned that the large hadron collider could create (a) black hole(s).
 
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There seems to no way that a black hole of less than about five solar masses can form but after a vast period of time one of such mass could evaporate down to Planck mass but the universe is not likely to last that long
 
The smaller the black hole, the "hotter" it is and the faster it evaporates. But that also assumes that it is not replacing it mass from somewhere. The universe is filled with the CMBR at a temperature of 2.725 K. Since black holes can "feed" on radiation just as easily as matter, as long the the temperature of the black hole is less than this, the black hole will take in more than it losses, and it will not shrink. This threshold is somewhere around the mass of the Moon. So if a primordial black hole had formed at at least this size, it would still be around today. A smaller black hole could be stable if it existed in an environment where it was getting even more radiation, near a star for example.
 
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The theoretical minimum mass for a black hole is a Planck mass. It would evaporate in a commensurately brief time - a Planck time. There is no known or theoretical upper mass limit.
 
Thank you all. I've been reading up on several subjects mentioned here, such as Planck mass, Planck distance and Planck time. My question in itself has been answered but at the same time a lot of new questions were raised. A truly humbling experience.
 
According to Stephen Hawking, during the relative short time after the big bang, tiny primordial black holes could of formed in tiny extreme density pockets. These black holes should be around today if true, and evaporate into a xray explosions that could be detected by our instruments. According to our actual measurements of this predicted radiation, it puts one primordial black hole to ever 4 cubic light years which is off the theoretical prediction.
 
OmegaOm said:
... According to our actual measurements of this predicted radiation, it puts one primordial black hole to ever 4 cubic light years which is off the theoretical prediction.
Can you elaborate somewhat, please? How did they arrive at the number of one primordial black hole to every 4 cubic lightyears? And is the dispersement uniform?
 
Its based on the gamma ray background.
 
It has been said that every answered question raises tem new questions. Well, it's happening to me because now i wonder: Is the detected gamma ray background unique for those x-ray explosions, in other words, are there no other processes which could emit that same radiation?
One would expect that because of the expansion of the universe those primordial black holes would be spread out over space. So some explosions should be closer than others thereby giving different signalstrengths. Have those been detected?
 

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