Is There an Eigenstate for the Creation Operator?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of eigenstates in quantum mechanics, specifically in the context of creation and annihilation operators. Participants explore whether the creation operator has eigenstates and examine the definitions and implications of eigenstates in relation to operators like the Hamiltonian and the number operator.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the definition of eigenstates and how they relate to operators, questioning whether the creation operator has eigenstates. They explore the implications of applying the creation operator to eigenstates and the resulting changes in state.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the definitions and properties of eigenstates, particularly in relation to the creation and annihilation operators. Some participants express confusion about the definitions and seek clarification.

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There are ongoing discussions about the definitions of eigenstates and eigenvalues, with some participants questioning the notation used in textbooks and the physical implications of these concepts. The original poster is attempting to understand the nature of eigenstates in the context of the creation operator.

  • #31
I apologize for the harsh tone of post #25.

Maybe I'm being picky, but I haven't seen anywhere in this thread a demonstration that a^\dagger has no eigenvalues and eigenvectors. Such a demonstration follows directly from

indigojoker said:
so thus, could i now conclude that the eigenvalues are continuously increasing when applying the creation operator, and hence the operator does not have an eigenstate

but, at this introductory level, I think the details need to be filled in.

Since \left\{ |n> \right\} is a basis for state space, an arbitrary state vector |\psi> can written

|\psi> = \sum_{n=0}^\infty c_n |n>.

Is it possible to find just the right values of the c_n's (e.g., some equal to zero, some equal to -1, some equal to 1/\sqrt{2}, some equal to 42, etc.) such that |\psi> is an eigenvector of a^\dagger?

Vigorous hand waving not allowed.:biggrin:
 
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  • #32
George Jones said:
Since \left\{ |n> \right\} is a basis for state space, an arbitrary state vector |\psi> can written

|\psi> = \sum_{n=0}^\infty c_n |n>.

Is it possible to find just the right values of the c_n's (e.g., some equal to zero, some equal to -1, some equal to 1/\sqrt{2}, some equal to 42, etc.) such that |\psi> is an eigenvector of a^\dagger?

Vigorous hand waving not allowed.:biggrin:

I don't think so, but I'm not sure how to prove why.
 

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