Operator, eigenstate, small calculation

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the operator \( e^{A} \) defined by its Taylor expansion, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics. The original poster seeks to prove that if \( |a \rangle \) is an eigenstate of \( A \), then it is also an eigenstate of \( e^{A} \) with the eigenvalue \( e^{a} \).

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  • Participants explore the Taylor expansion of the operator \( e^{A} \) and its implications for eigenstates. Some express confusion about the definitions and the steps involved in the proof. Others suggest starting from the Taylor expansion and applying it to the eigenstate.

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There is a productive exchange where participants clarify the definition of \( e^{A} \) and its application to eigenstates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions about the operator \( A \) being bounded, and participants are actively working through the steps of the proof.

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Participants note that the exercise is situated within quantum mechanics, raising questions about the boundedness of operators and their self-adjoint nature.

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Hello :-) I have a small question for you :-)

1. Homework Statement


The Operator e^{A} is definded bei the Taylor expanion e^{A} = \sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{A^n}{n!} .
Prove that if |a \rangle is an eigenstate of A, that is if A|a\rangle = a|a\rangle, then |a\rangle is an eigenstate of e^{A} with the eigenvalue of e^{a}.

The Attempt at a Solution



I show you a very bad attempt:
A|a \rangle = a|a \rangle\quad\quad\quad| : |a\rangle |e^{...}
e^A =e^a \quad\quad\quad| * |a\rangle
e^A|a\rangle = e^a|a\rangle

I would be glad about an info how to do it right... thank you :)
 
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frerk said:
I show you a very bad attempt:
A|a \rangle = a|a \rangle\quad\quad\quad| : |a\rangle |e^{...}
e^A =e^a \quad\quad\quad| * |a\rangle
e^A|a\rangle = e^a|a\rangle
I don't even understand what that means.

Start with ##e^A|a\rangle## and use the Taylor expansion of the exponential.
 
frerk said:
The Operator e^{A} is definded bei the Taylor expanion e^{A} = \sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{A^n}{n!} .
This is a correct definition when ##A## is a bounded operator. However, operators occurring in QM (is this a QM exercise?) are typically not bounded, but they are usually self-adjoint, so you can use a suitable functional calculus.

frerk said:
I would be glad about an info how to do it right... thank you :)
In view of the above remark, let us assume in addition that ##A## is bounded. Then just apply the series definition, so the first two steps become:
$$
e^A|a\rangle = \left(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{\frac{A^n}{n!}}\right)|a\rangle = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{\frac{A^n|a\rangle}{n!}}
$$
You continue.
 
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DrClaude said:
Start with ##e^A|a\rangle## and use the Taylor expansion of the exponential.

ok, thank you :-)

Krylov said:
This is a correct definition when ##A## is a bounded operator. However, operators occurring in QM (is this a QM exercise?) are typically not bounded, but they are usually self-adjoint, so you can use a suitable functional calculus.
yes it is QM. ok thanks
Krylov said:
In view of the above remark, let us assume in addition that ##A## is bounded. Then just apply the series definition, so the first two steps become:
$$
A|a\rangle = \left(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{\frac{A^n}{n!}}\right)|a\rangle = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{\frac{A^n|a\rangle}{n!}}
$$
You continue.
I think you mean e^A |a\rangle = (\sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{A^n}{n!} )|a\rangle ?
DrClaude used it and you also used it in the second term.

So I will try now:

e^A |a\rangle = (\sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{A^n}{n!}) |a\rangle = \sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{A^n|a\rangle }{n!} = \sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{a^n|a\rangle }{n!} = (\sum\nolimits_{n=0}^\infty \frac{a^n}{n!}) |a\rangle = e^a |a\rangle

It think, that looks fine? :-)
 
frerk said:
I think you mean
Thank you, fixed. I think you would have known how to do this exercise.
frerk said:
It think, that looks fine? :-)
Yes, much better! :smile:
 
thank you both :-)
 
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