Is There an Exact Solution for the Differential Equation y'= 2 + (1+sin(t))y/5?

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The discussion revolves around the differential equation y' = 2 + (1 + sin(t))y/5, which is identified as a linear ordinary differential equation. Participants are exploring the possibility of finding an exact solution and discussing the implications of integrating factors.

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  • Participants discuss the use of integrating factors and the challenges in expressing them in elementary forms. There are attempts to rearrange the equation and explore the properties of integrating factors, with some questioning the separability of certain expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the use of integrating factors and their properties. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the equation and the nature of the integrating factor, but no consensus has been reached on the existence of an exact solution.

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There is mention of a requirement to plot y versus t for various constants, which suggests a potential exploration of numerical solutions or graphical interpretations in addition to analytical methods.

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it's linear ordinary differential equation and when i tried to solve the integrating factor cannot be put in an elementary form. The text i that i got this equation tell me to plot y versus t for several constant C so there must be the exact solution
 
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The point of an integrating factor, [itex]\alpha[/itex], is that it allows us the write the parts including y as a single derivative: [itex](\alpha y)'= \alpha y'+ \alpha' y[/itex] and here we want that to equal [itex]y'- (1+ sin(t))y[/itex]. That is, we want [itex]\alpha'= d\alpha/dt= -1 - sin(t)[/itex] which is "separable".
 
HallsofIvy said:
The point of an integrating factor, [itex]\alpha[/itex], is that it allows us the write the parts including y as a single derivative: [itex](\alpha y)'= \alpha y'+ \alpha' y[/itex] and here we want that to equal [itex]y'- (1+ sin(t))y[/itex]. That is, we want [itex]\alpha'= d\alpha/dt= -1 - sin(t)[/itex] which is "separable".
I should have said
[tex]\frac{d\alpha}{dt}= (-1- sin(t))\alpha[/tex]
 
@kochibacha: any of this useful?
 

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