Is there an expiration date on propane?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the functionality and potential issues related to an old propane tank and its compatibility with various burners. Participants explore whether propane has an expiration date, the effects of long-term storage on propane, and troubleshooting steps for low pressure and weak flame output in cooking applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if propane can "get old" or lose pressure over time, especially in a tank that has not been used for 20 years.
  • Another participant suggests that the issue may be due to a blockage in the cylinder valve, possibly caused by insect nests.
  • Some participants propose that the burners may not be functioning correctly due to being designed for a different gas type, such as natural gas, which could affect the fuel/air ratio.
  • There are suggestions that the old tank might be contaminated with water or that the amount of gas in the tank is insufficient to generate adequate pressure.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of the tank containing a blend of propane and butane, which could affect performance.
  • Concerns are raised about the regulators being undersized or incorrect for the new burners, despite being replaced multiple times.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the cause of the low pressure and weak flame output. There is no consensus on whether the issue lies with the propane tank, the burners, or the regulators.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the discussion lacks definitive conclusions regarding the composition of the gas in the tank and the specific conditions affecting the performance of the burners.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals troubleshooting propane burner issues, particularly those dealing with older propane tanks or unfamiliar burner types.

  • #31
The newer regulator must have the right pressure rating to handle that large burner. How old are the rubber hoses? They can form a bubble inside that blocks the flow.

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  • #32
I am thinking that as a safety precaution the new regulator may not be adjustable. Mine is I just unscrew a cap on the top.

As for flow to the burner. If it hasn't been used for a long time it may be partially plugged. I cleaned out the jet (orifice) on mine one year only to find out that there was a spider web further up the line.

There should also be a combustion air plate that will turn to adjust the air/gas mixture. You want a nice blue flame with little or no yellow.

Getting enough flow out of one of the new regulators will probably not be sufficient for two burners and the big one.

Turn the main tank valve on slowly. It used to have a tendency to put the regulator in the wide open position if the main valve was opened quickly. The new regulator may have a built in safety to avoid this. That could explain low and erratic pressure.

When shutting off the newer equipment shut of the main gas valve first. Don't shut off the gas flow vales to the burners first. It can cause the above problem.

There is also a vent hole to the pressure regulator diaphragm that must not be plugged.
 
  • #33
yungman said:
None of the regulator is adjustable, in fact I have not seen an adjustable regulator on the shelf in ALL the store. Actually I don't think the regulators are defective. I just came back from a place far away that is specialized in propane burners, here is what I got.

1) My burner is so big that it need the red color regulator to work.
2) The ones I bought from Home Depot and Lowes are all not for this big burner. The burner is so big that it does not create big enough back pressure to push the check valve open.
3) The one I said worked is a red one, therefore it works. I have to go buy another red one back for the other burner.

I still yet to test out the new one, so I post back later.

Please don't be rude, you did not ask very clearly until this morning when we cross posted. If you don't want to answer, let somebody else answer. This is absolutely uncalled for even though you are a contributor or whatever. One rude post is enough.

I asked you what color the regulators were (very clearly) in my very first post in this thread (#12). All of my questions have been very explicit, and you have ignored most of them. I had to try to troubleshoot by inference and waiting for you to accidentally post an important piece of information. Although I didn't explicitly tell you that your issue was in the order you opened the valves, I did mention that it is indeed a problem with the new tanks before the "cross post[ing]" today (my Dec 15th post).

If you had ever answered my questions, I could have told you the issues that followed from each. There was a specific reason for each question, a following list of issues, and simple tests/fixes for each. It was your avoidance that kept any of that from happening.

I'm surprised I kept posting, much less was simply "rude."

edward- There are adjustable and non-adjustable regulators.
 
  • #34
The OP has not been forthcoming and has gotten rude. Thread closed.
 

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