Is there formula for zeres of a cubic polynomial

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The discussion revolves around the existence of a general formula for finding the zeros of cubic polynomials. Participants explore various methods for determining these zeros, including Cardano's formula, and inquire about specific cases or subcategories of cubic polynomials that may have unique approaches.

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  • One participant asks if there is a general formula for finding all zeros of cubic polynomials and requests information on different methods, including numerical approaches and trial and error.
  • Another participant mentions that there is a formula, but describes it as long and inefficient, suggesting a Google search for "cubic root formula" for more information.
  • A third participant identifies Cardano's formula as the method for finding zeros of cubic polynomials and provides links for further reading on its derivation.
  • A participant shares a detailed derivation of Cardano's formula, explaining the transformation of a general cubic equation into a reduced form and the process for solving it.
  • Another participant expresses enjoyment in the derivation but finds it challenging to apply Cardano's formula to a specific polynomial.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the efficiency or applicability of Cardano's formula, and there is no agreement on the existence of simpler methods for all cubic polynomials. The discussion remains open with multiple viewpoints on the topic.

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Some participants reference specific methods and formulas without fully resolving the complexities involved in applying them to various cubic polynomials. The discussion includes assumptions about the applicability of Cardano's formula and the nature of cubic polynomials.

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is there any general formula to find out zeros of a cubic polynomial that will give you all the zeros ? if not please tell me what are the different methods to find out the zeros , guessing and trial and error , numerical etc. i want to see where are each methods useful and is there any subcategory of cubic polynomial for which we have some specific method to find out all the zeros ?
 
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Yes. It's long and inefficient. A google search for "cubic root formula" should do the trick; or just look up cubic polynomials on wikipedia.
 
Just because I enjoy doing it, here is a derivation of Cardano's formula:

If a and b are any two real numbers then [itex](a- b)^3= a^3- 3a^2b+ 3ab^2- b^3[/itex] and [itex]3ab(a- b)= 3a^2b- 3ab^2[/itex] so that [itex](a- b)^3+ 3ab(a- b)= a^3- b^3[/itex]. If we let x= a- b, m= 3ab, and [itex]n= a^3- b^3[/itex], we have the [itex]x^3- mx= n[/itex]. That is a "reduced" cubic equation. (Reduced because there is no "[itex]x^2[/itex]" term. Given any cubic equation, [itex]x^3+ px^2+ qx+ r= 0[/itex], we can always replace x by y- a, then choose a so that the coefficient of [itex]y^2[/itex] is 0.)

Now, the question is, suppose we know m and n, can we solve for a and b and so find x? The answer is, of course, yes. From m= 3ab, b= m/3a so that [itex]n= a^3- b^3= a^3- m^3/3^3a^3[/itex] and, multiplying through by [itex]a^3[/itex], [itex]na^3= n(a^3)^2- (m/3)^3= 0.[/itex] That is a quadratic equation for [itex]a^3[/itex] that we can solve using the quadratic equation:
[tex]a^3= \frac{n\pm\sqrt{n^2- 4(m/3)^3}}{2}= \frac{n}{2}\pm\sqrt{\left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^2- \left(\frac{m}{3}\right)^3}[/tex]

Since [itex]a^3- b^3= n[/itex],
[tex]b^3= a^3- n= -\frac{n}{2}\pm\sqrt{\left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^2- \left(\frac{m}{3}\right)^3}[/tex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Just because I enjoy doing it, here is a derivation of Cardano's formula:
i also enjoyed it :smile: but find little tough to get it ,i need to apply it for a polynomial thanks .
 

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