Is this a valid parametrization of the torus?

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a specific parameterization of the torus as presented in a differential geometry text. Participants explore whether the given parameterization adequately covers the entire surface of the torus, considering the implications of the parameterization's defined intervals.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the parameterization provided in the text, suggesting that it may leave out parts of the torus due to the exclusion of the endpoints 0 and 2π.
  • Another participant asserts that the parameterization does cover all of the torus except for two intersecting circles.
  • A further reply challenges the sufficiency of the coverage, asking why the exclusion of these parts is not considered problematic.
  • Another participant states that it is impossible to cover the torus with a single chart, implying that the parameterization's limitations are expected in the context of differential geometry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the parameterization adequately covers the torus, with some asserting it does not cover the entire surface while others argue that such limitations are acceptable in the context of charts in differential geometry.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the definitions of parameterization and charts in differential geometry, as well as the implications of mapping from open sets in R².

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I am reading "Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces" by Manfredo do Carmo and on page 156 he gives the following parameterization of the torus

x(u,v) = ((a + r cos u )cos v, (a + r cos u)sin v, r sin u) 0 < u < 2*pi, 0 < v < 2*pi

Doesnt this leave out some of the torus,? I know that he needs to map from an open set in R^2 and he therefore want to map from the product of two open intervals in R, but by not including either 0 or 2*pi I don't see how this is onto the torus. Am I missing something here?
 
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Yes, strictly speaking it covers all of the torus except two intersecting circles.
 
But then it's not covering it, why is this not a problem?
 
You can't cover the torus in a single chart.
 

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