Is this correct? (spider web tension question)

  • Thread starter Thread starter phy_
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Tension Web
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in strand 4 of a spider web supported by four strands, given the tensions in strands 1, 2, and 3. The tensions are specified as 21 mN at 20 degrees East of North, 16 mN at 60 degrees East of South, and 18 mN at 40 degrees West of South. The correct approach involves breaking down each tension into its x and y components and summing these to find the resultant tension in strand 4. A diagram of the web is recommended for clarity in visualizing the forces involved.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of vector components in physics
  • Familiarity with trigonometric functions (sine and cosine)
  • Basic knowledge of tension forces in static equilibrium
  • Ability to interpret and create force diagrams
NEXT STEPS
  • Study vector decomposition in physics
  • Learn about static equilibrium and tension forces
  • Practice drawing and analyzing force diagrams
  • Explore trigonometric identities and their applications in physics problems
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, as well as educators looking for examples of tension calculations in real-world scenarios.

phy_
Messages
16
Reaction score
0
A spider builds its web in a window frame that is lying on the ground. It is supported by four main strands. Calculate the force of tension in strand 4 assuming the web is stable. The tensions in the other three strands are as follows:
strand 1: 21 mN (20 degrees East of North)
strand 2: 16 mN (60 degrees East of South)
strand 3: 18 mN (40 degrees West of South)

if i solve y

T1 cos20(0.021N)
=0.019 N
T2 cos60(0.016N)
=0.008 N
T3 cos 40(0.018N)
=0.013 N

T4 y total 0.014

solve for x
sin20(0.021N)
=0.00718 N
sin60(0.016)
=0.013 N
sin(40)(0.018N)
=0.011N

T4 x total 0.0162

c squared = 0.0162 squared + 0.014 squared
c=0.0214

tan theta = 0.014/0.0162 = 0.0214 N40.8W degrees

is this correct?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You don't see to deal with the directions correctly.

0.019 - 0.008 - 0.0013 = ?
 
could you explain why you would subtract?
 
I find your work hard to follow. I think (like Carid notes) you aren't quite dealing with directions well. In a problem like this, I would first take all individual strings and break them into their components along perpendicular directions: in your case, east and north... and maybe you'd even like to note west and south instead of using negative east and negative north (these negatives would explain the subtraction that Carid is noting).

for instance I would say:
string 1: 0.019 N North + 0.00718 N East
string 2: ...
string 3: ...
 
From the looks of the numbers, I'm guessing you averaged the magnitudes of each of the forces? If so, that is not the correct approach. Otherwise it looks like you took the right steps.

I highly recommend drawing a diagram of the web, keeping in mind that you are looking for the sum of the forces about the center point where the strands intersect.

Once that is done, take physics girl's advice. Choose one direction as positive for each component (x and y), then add any positive force and subtract the negative forces.
 
Thank-you very much. Question solved.
 

Similar threads

Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K