Is This Differential Equation Exact or Solvable by an Integrating Factor?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the given differential equation, ##(3x^2-y^2)dy-2xydx=0##, is exact or can be made exact using an integrating factor. Participants explore the conditions for exactness and the potential use of integrating factors in solving the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of exact differential equations and compute the necessary partial derivatives to check for exactness. Questions arise regarding the correctness of their computations and the nature of the equation itself.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the exactness of the equation, while others suggest that an integrating factor may be applicable. There is acknowledgment of the potential to transform the equation into an exact form, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention avoiding negative sign errors and the reliance on integrating factors that depend solely on ##x##. The discussion reflects an exploration of assumptions and the conditions under which the equation can be manipulated.

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Homework Statement .
Solve the differential equation: ##(3x^2-y^2)dy-2xydx=0##. The attempt at a solution.
I thought this was an exact differential equation. If I call ##M(x,y)=-2xy## and ##N(x,y)=3x^2-y^2##, then the ODE is an exact differential equation if and only if ##\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}##. Now, when I compute these two partial derivatives, ##\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=-2x## and ##\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=6x## which are clearly different. Am I doing something wrong or is it just that this equation is not exact?
 
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mahler1 said:
Homework Statement .
Solve the differential equation: ##(3x^2-y^2)dy-2xydx=0##.


The attempt at a solution.
I thought this was an exact differential equation. If I call ##M(x,y)=-2xy## and ##N(x,y)=3x^2-y^2##, then the ODE is an exact differential equation if and only if ##\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}##. Now, when I compute these two partial derivatives, ##\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=-2x## and ##\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=6x## which are clearly different. Am I doing something wrong or is it just that this equation is not exact?
Looks to me to be not exact.
 
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Mark44 said:
Looks to me to be not exact.
Yes, I've looked up in an ODE textbook and I've found that you can reduce this equation to an exact differential equation by something called "the integrating factor". Thanks anyway.
 
I find it helps writing the equation like so to avoid negative sign errors:

##(3x^2-y^2)dy + (-2xy)dx=0##

I can see an integrating factor in your equation that relies only on ##x##. Using this integrating factor, you might be able to turn this equation into an exact equation. Then it is easily solvable.
 
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Zondrina said:
I find it helps writing the equation like so to avoid negative sign errors:

##(3x^2-y^2)dy + (-2xy)dx=0##

I can see an integrating factor in your equation that relies only on ##x##. Using this integrating factor, you might be able to turn this equation into an exact equation. Then it is easily solvable.
Thanks, I've been able to reduce the equation to an exact equation by finding ##μ(x)##.
 

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