Is this induction proof correct?

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The problem involves a sequence defined by a recurrence relation, where the goal is to prove by induction that the sequence remains within the bounds of 0 and 1 for all integers n ≥ 2. The sequence is initialized with specific values, and the proof requires establishing a base case and an inductive step.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the induction statement and the assumptions made about the values of the sequence. Questions are raised regarding the implications of the bounds on the cosine function and the type of induction being used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the clarity of the induction argument and the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the induction proof, particularly in how to articulate the statements clearly.

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There are concerns about the wording of the induction hypothesis and the need for a clear base case. Participants are also examining the implications of the values of the sequence on the cosine function's behavior.

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Homework Statement



The sequence {xn} is given by the recurrence relation

xn = cos(xn-1)sin(xn-2) for n ≥ 2

and x0=2 and x1=1,4. Show by induction that 0 ≤ xn ≤ 1 for all integers n ≥ 2.

The Attempt at a Solution



We formulate a statement:

Pn: 0 ≤ xn = cos(xn-1)sin(xn-2) ≤ 1 for n ≥ 2
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We assume that Pn is true for n=k, where k ≥ 2:

Ak: 0 ≤ xk = cos(xk-1)sin(xk-2) ≤ 1 for k ≥ 2

We then set n=k+1:

xk+1 = cos(xk)sin(xk-1)

We know from the assumption Ak that:

0 ≤ xk ≤ 1

This implies that:

0,54 ≤ cos(xk) ≤ 1 which again implies 0 < cos(xk) < 1

We then have to show:

0 ≤ sin(xk-1) ≤ 1

We know that sine to any angle is always equal to or less then 1. We therefore have to prove:

0 ≤ sin(xk-1)

Since we assumed that 0 ≤ xk ≤ 1, this must be true for xk-1 as well. This means that if the assumption Ak is true when n=k, its true when n=k+1 also. The last thing is to prove the base case:

x2 = cos(1,4)sin(2) ≈ 0,155

0 ≤ 0,155 ≤ 1

Pn is thus true.

Is this correct argumentation?
 
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I'm trying to follow along, but how is it that

[itex]0 \leq x_k \leq 1 \Rightarrow 0.54 \leq cos(x_k) \leq 1[/itex]?

Also, are you trying to use strong induction or weak induction?
 
Mogarrr said:
I'm trying to follow along, but how is it that

[itex]0 \leq x_k \leq 1 \Rightarrow 0.54 \leq cos(x_k) \leq 1[/itex]?

Also, are you trying to use strong induction or weak induction?

Strong induction.

Since the value of xk is always between 0 and 1 radians, the value of cos(xk) has to lie between cos(1)≈0.5403... and cos(0)=1. If you plot cos(x) from x=0 to x=1 you will see that the values of cos(x) lies between 0.5403 and 1.
 
johann1301 said:
We formulate a statement:

Pn: 0 ≤ xn = cos(xn-1)sin(xn-2) ≤ 1 for n ≥ 2
You shouldn't write out the definition of ##x_n## in the middle of your definition of ##P(n)##. Just say that for each integer n such that ##n\geq 2##, P(n) is the statement ##0\leq x_n\leq 1##. Your goal is to prove P(n) for all integers n such that ##n\geq 2##. To do this by induction is to prove the following two statements:

##P(2)##
For all integers n such that ##n\geq 2##, if P(n) then P(n+1).

johann1301 said:
We assume that Pn is true for n=k, where k ≥ 2:
This is poorly worded. It sounds like you're talking about some specific but unspecified integer k that's greater than or equal to 2. So you're saying that one of the infinitely many statements P(2), P(3), etc. is true, and you're not saying which one. I can't interpret the statement as a "for all k" statement either, because then it would be saying that all of the statements P(2), P(3), etc. are true. This is the result that you're trying to prove.

What you need to say here is this: Let n be an arbitrary integer such that n≥2. We will prove that if P(n) then P(n+1). So suppose that P(n) is true.

Note however that this is not sufficient to prove the theorem. You also need to prove P(2).
 

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