What is the Limit of the Sequence xn as n Approaches Infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the sequence defined by xn = 1/n[1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n] as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the behavior of this sequence and its limit, particularly focusing on demonstrating that it converges to 0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest finding an upper bound for the sum using integrals, applying the sandwich theorem, and discussing the implications of logarithmic comparisons. There are inquiries about the validity of certain assumptions and methods, such as the integral test and l'Hopital's rule.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being proposed to analyze the sequence. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding bounds and convergence, while others are exploring different mathematical techniques to support their reasoning.

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There are mentions of the sequence being monotonically decreasing and the need to show convergence for any positive real number 'r'. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of their findings without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I have a sequence {xn} defined by

xn = 1/n[1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n]
for all natural numbers n.

I want to show that this sequence converges to 0, i.e. given any positive real number 'r', I want to show that there exists a natural number k such that xk < r. (The sequence is monotonically decreasing.)

Help please.
 
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Oster said:
I have a sequence {xn} defined by

xn = 1/n[1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n]
for all natural numbers n.

I want to show that this sequence converges to 0, i.e. given any positive real number 'r', I want to show that there exists a natural number k such that xk < r. (The sequence is monotonically decreasing.)

Help please.

Find an upper bound for [1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n] using an integral to estimate it. That would be a good start.
 
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Alternatively, you could prove the general case:
[tex] a_n \rightarrow a \Rightarrow \frac{1}{n} \displaystyle \sum_{k=1}^{n} a_k \rightarrow a[/tex]
 
How about an application of the sandwich theorem.
 
Hi!
[1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/n] is always less than [1+ln(n)] ?
implying that my sequence is less that [1/n + (1/n)*ln(n)] which I believe converges to 0.
 
Oster said:
Hi!
[1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/n] is always less than [1+ln(n)] ?
implying that my sequence is less that [1/n + (1/n)*ln(n)] which I believe converges to 0.

All true. But how did you show the sum is less than 1+ln(n)? And 'believing' [1/n + (1/n)*ln(n)] converges to zero doesn't prove it does. How would you show that?
 
Isn't it something like the integral test? It was kinda obvious from the diagram.
And lim [x^x] -> 1 as x->0 follows from L'Hopital's rule. (The log of the limit is 0)
 
you could use the divergence test
 
Oster said:
Isn't it something like the integral test? It was kinda obvious from the diagram.
And lim [x^x] -> 1 as x->0 follows from L'Hopital's rule. (The log of the limit is 0)

Yes, it is l'Hopital, but I don't see what x^x has to do with it. And yes, the integral part is sort of obvious from a lower sum estimate of 1/x. If you don't want to actually spell out the details, that's fine with me.
 

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