Is this the correct way to solve this QM integral problem?

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics integral problem involving the behavior of the wave function ψ(r,t) as r approaches infinity. The specific focus is on determining the values that n can assume for the integral ∫A(ψ*∇ψ-ψ∇ψ*)⋅nda to vanish, given that the behavior of ψ is dominated by r-n.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the integral by considering ψ as ar-n and calculating the expressions for ψ*∇ψ and ψ∇ψ*. Some participants question the definition of "dominated by" in this context and explore specific forms of ψ, such as ψ(x) = e^(ikr)/r^n, to assess their validity. Others raise questions about the dependency of the area element da on r.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different forms of the wave function and their implications for the integral. Some have provided insights into the conditions for n based on their calculations, while others are questioning the assumptions and definitions involved in the problem.

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There is mention of a potential r^2 dependency in the area element da, which influences the conditions on n. The original poster expresses concern about the implications of their findings, indicating a sense of urgency regarding their homework submission.

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Problem is:

If the behavior of ψ( r,t ) as r->inf is dominated by r-n, what values can n assume if the integral
A(ψ*∇ψ-ψ∇ψ*)⋅nda
taken over the surface at infinity is to vanish.

I considered ψ as ar-n calculate like below
ψ*∇ψ≈ar-n⋅a*(-nr-n-1)=-naa*r-2n-1
ψ∇ψ*≈a*r-n⋅a(-nr-n-1)=-naa*r-2n-1
So... ψ*∇ψ-ψ∇ψ*=0 at anywhere. Thus, n does not affect to integration.

Well, this result is so ridiculous :/
 
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Suppose ##\psi(x) = \Large{\frac{e^{ikr}}{r^n}}##. Would this be considered a function that is dominated by r-n? (I think so, but I don't know the precise definition of "dominated by".)
 
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TSny said:
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Suppose ##\psi(x) = \Large{\frac{e^{ikr}}{r^n}}##. Would this be considered a function that is dominated by r-n? (I think so, but I don't know the precise definition of "dominated by".)
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I just tried and got the following result
##\psi^{*}\nabla\psi - \psi\nabla\psi^{*} = \Large{\frac{2ki}{r^{2n}}}##
So, now ##n## must be larger than 0. Quite acceptable result :)
 
Are there any factors of r in the area element da?
 
TSny said:
Are there any factors of r in the area element da?
Oh. r^2 dependency... So n>1

OMG I've submitted my homework lol
 
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