Is this the largest homemade accelerator ever built?

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The discussion revolves around a homemade electron accelerator called the Aurora Accelerator, with participants exploring its size, energy output, construction challenges, and safety concerns. The conversation includes technical details about vacuum requirements, shielding from radiation, and the feasibility of the design.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims the Aurora Accelerator is the largest homemade accelerator ever built and shares a video link for feedback.
  • Another participant emphasizes that energy output is more critical than size, questioning the current energy level of 1.3 MeV mentioned.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability to maintain a vacuum in PVC pipe, with one participant suggesting that achieving a vacuum of 10^-6 Pa is necessary for effective operation.
  • There are warnings about the potential hazards of radiation and the need for adequate shielding if high-energy particles are being accelerated.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the design, stating that the use of Helmholtz coils indicates a lack of understanding of accelerator principles.
  • Another participant defends their design, stating they have achieved a vacuum of 0.8 Pa and are working on connectors for the setup.
  • Participants discuss the risks associated with the project, comparing it to dangerous activities without proper knowledge or equipment.
  • One participant offers to share detailed plans and resources for building the accelerator in the future.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with some supporting the project and others raising significant safety and technical concerns. There is no consensus on the feasibility or safety of the accelerator design.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to vacuum requirements, potential hazards of radiation, and the adequacy of materials used in construction. These factors remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Here's a video of my homemade electron accelerator, named the Aurora Accelerator. To the best of my knowledge it is the largest homemade accelerator ever built. Check it out, and comment!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dc7STQht08&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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AuroraIndust said:
Here's a video of my homemade electron accelerator, named the Aurora Accelerator. To the best of my knowledge it is the largest homemade accelerator ever built. Check it out, and comment!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dc7STQht08&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That link didn't work for me but this one did:




Size doesn't matter, energy does, which is?
 
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Thanks for the link update. 1.3MeV is the current energy.
 
AuroraIndust said:
Thanks for the link update. 1.3MeV is the current energy.

I like the video work, do you have an accompanying video explaining the setup?
 
In June 2011(after the ISEF) I will have EVERYTHING made available to the public, schematics, parts lists, video tutorials, diagrams, and a 20 page paper on how to build it and how it works.
 
I think you are going to have a hard time sending the particles in a circle without a magnet and an equally hard time getting decent vacuum out of PVC pipe.
 
The PVC already sustains a 0.8Pa environment(in a different design), I just need to make connectors for this setup. And there already Helmholtz Coils in there, that are controlled by variable power supplies, at every 45* bend. Each coil's geometry can curve up to 60*.
 
At 1 Pa, the mean free path of a particle in your accelerator will be <1mm. You will need a vacuum on the order of 10^-6 Pa, which, as Vanadium 50 says, will be difficult if not impossible to achieve with PVC pipe. Also, if you are really accelerating particles to energies greater than a few 10's of keV, I hope you are shielding the thing! The X-rays produced could be harmful or fatal.
 
You know that "PVC smell"? That alone tells you you won't be able to get a good enough vacuum. If you can smell it, it's no good.

What you've written so far gives me no confidence you know what you are doing. There are many risks and hazards associated with an accelerator, and if you don't really know what you are doing, you risk the equivalent of sticking a metal fork in your toaster.
 
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I have radiation shields attenuating the x-rays to 0.2%. and I've achieved 0.8 Pascals with the PVC already, any suggestions about better piping/tubing would be appreciated though!
 
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Please stop before you injure yourself or others.

Once you said "helmholtz coils" I knew you didn't know what you were doing. There are many hazards there, and if you don't know the very basics of accelerator design, you are a) not going to get it to work, and b) likely to injure yourself or others. Or worse.

Your field is wrong. Your vacuum is inadequate. You have not understood the principles of phase stability - otherwise your field is wrong. Your injection insertion won't work. You have high voltage, high current, vacuum and radiation risks. Please stop.
 
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Don't judge so quickly, this is just a forum, you have nowhere near the data to infer that about this experiment.
 
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I have seen your video, and I have read your responses. I have exactly the same reaction as I would have if someone told me they wanted to go skydiving, and they were making their own parachute and wondered what color bedsheet to use. You are doing something risky, and you do not understand the risks.
 

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