Is Time Slowing Down? - Examining the Possibility

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The discussion explores the concept of time dilation in relation to the gravitational effects of the Andromeda galaxy approaching the Milky Way. Participants examine whether the proximity of Andromeda could lead to a measurable slowing of time, considering both local and external perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that as Andromeda accelerates toward us, gravity, which dilates time, might cause time to slow down as it gets closer.
  • Another participant argues that the effects of gravity on time are subtle and that the distance involved means any effect would be extremely small.
  • It is noted that the approach of Andromeda would have a lesser impact compared to the recession of other galaxies due to the expansion of the universe.
  • A later reply reiterates the subtlety of gravitational effects on time and emphasizes that local measurements would not differ significantly, while also introducing a hypothetical scenario involving distant civilizations and their perception of time relative to ours.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of Andromeda's approach and its effect on time, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about gravitational effects and the relative nature of time, which may not be fully resolved. The hypothetical scenarios presented also introduce additional layers of uncertainty.

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Since Andromeda is accelerating toward us and since gravity is the only force that acts at a distance, as well as dialates time, then is it possible that the closer Andromeda gets to us, the slower time goes? This may be very farfetched, but I by no means am not a physicist, and this is just a thought.
 
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The way gravity affects time is somewhat subtler than that.

The fact that Andromeda gets closer would modify our measurements of time with respect to an external observer[/color] (located outside Andromeda and outside our galaxy). For us, things will not have that much of a difference locally.

Also, even when we are talking about an enormous mass, the distance is also extremely large, so you can expect a very, very tiny effect.
 
That Andromedda is approaching would have far less effect than the fact that other galaxies are receding due to the expansion of the universe.
 
ahrkron said:
The way gravity affects time is somewhat subtler than that.

The fact that Andromeda gets closer would modify our measurements of time with respect to an external observer[/color] (located outside Andromeda and outside our galaxy). For us, things will not have that much of a difference locally.

Also, even when we are talking about an enormous mass, the distance is also extremely large, so you can expect a very, very tiny effect.

Yes, it would be relative to the rest of the universe, of course, but I'm not sure that was the point of the question. If the effect would cause time changes to occur slower in relation to the rest of the universe, that would be a real factor, should a catastrophe occur inside or out, to anything that exists long enough that is. What I mean is that if, hypothetically with a capital H, little green men in the distant galaxy, whose civilization decided they'd rather not have humans to spread our dubious values to their planet, might be rather happy to find that we're progressing at a slower speed relative to them, or very unhappy if the other way around.
 

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