Isentropic process (temperature and pressure relationship)

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between temperature and pressure in an isentropic process, specifically evaluating two equations presented by the original poster regarding their validity and applicability.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify which of the two equations relating pressure and temperature is correct, noting discrepancies between their lecture notes and textbook. Some participants suggest deriving the correct expression using the ideal gas law, while others question the validity of one of the equations as potentially being a typo.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the derivation of the equations and questioning the assumptions behind them. Guidance has been offered to derive the expressions, but no consensus has been reached regarding which equation is correct.

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The original poster references specific values for γ and expresses uncertainty about the conditions under which each equation applies. There is mention of lecture notes and textbook references that may influence the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


for isentropic process, which of the following is true about the relationship of temperature and pressure?

(1): P2/P1=(T2/T1)^[γ/(γ-1)]
(2): P2/P1=(T2/T1)^[(γ-1)/γ]

where γ = 1.4 for air

Homework Equations


stated above

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found equation (1) in my module lecture notes and both equation (1) and (2) in my textbook.

Let me attached the image of the related part of the textbook here:
For (1): https://i.imgur.com/Z7vPTWX.png
Z7vPTWX.png


For (2): https://i.imgur.com/nsrmUL0.png
nsrmUL0.png


I feel like they are giving out different answer and I am not sure which one is true or which implies in what specific condition.
Thank you very much!
 
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Perhaps you can derive the correct expression yourself. Hint: Use the ideal gas law to eliminate the pressure in the isentropic expression pVγ = constant.
 
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I remember our lecturer had derived the equation during lecture and what she got is this.
yecko said:
(1): P2/P1=(T2/T1)^[γ/(γ-1)]

Do you think the other equation (i.e. P2/P1=(T2/T1)^[(γ-1)/γ] ) is wrong?
Thanks.
 
I think that one of the two equations is a typo. Can you figure out which one? Just reconstruct your lecturer's derivation as I outlined in post #2.
 
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