Isn’t “kicked out” a derogatory term?

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The discussion revolves around the term "kicked out" and whether it is considered derogatory or insulting, particularly in contexts involving authority and interpersonal dynamics. Participants explore the implications of the term in various situations, including informal and formal settings, and its potential connotations of bias or violence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants find "kicked out" to be a derogatory term, especially when used by someone in authority towards a subordinate.
  • Others argue that "kicked out" is an informal expression that simply means being made to leave involuntarily, without necessarily implying disrespect.
  • Context is crucial; in computer science, "kicked out" can refer to non-biased actions, while in social contexts, it may imply bias or personal violence.
  • Participants discuss how the term can reflect on the authority figure's motives, especially if used in a dismissive manner.
  • Some examples illustrate that the term can be perceived differently based on the situation, such as expelling someone for technical issues versus personal disagreements.
  • There is a suggestion that the term "whining" used in formal complaints can be seen as disrespectful and may contribute to the derogatory nature of being "kicked out."
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of authority figures using informal language in formal situations, which may be perceived as unprofessional.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether "kicked out" is derogatory. Multiple competing views remain regarding its implications based on context and the relationship between the individuals involved.

Contextual Notes

Discussions highlight the dependence on context, including the nature of authority, the specific situation, and the relationship dynamics between individuals. There are unresolved interpretations of the term "whining" and its impact on perceptions of complaints.

  • #31
jbriggs444 said:
If one asks a question and then refuses to accept a direct answer, it suggests that the question was not sincere.
I thought this was a discussion (as my tags say) so people can have different opinions and at the same time having a respect for other's opinion.

However, as you always help me in Classical Physics sub-forum, I cannot argue with you as you're my teacher.
 
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  • #32
gmax137 said:
In my mind, there are problems enough in the world without manufacturing offense where none is intended.
Thats really a great line.
 
  • #33
Adesh said:
I thought this was a discussion (as my tags say) so people can have different opinions and at the same time having a respect for other's opinion.
I am trying to remain as civil as I can. The original question might be charitably interpreted as "help me understand the connotations of this phrase".

The impression conveyed since then is something more akin to "please support my feeling that a wrong has been done in this situation which I have not fully described".
 
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  • #34
jbriggs444 said:
The impression that is conveyed since then is something more akin to "please support my feeling that a wrong has been done in this situation which I have not described".
Even if it seemed that I was asking for support then also I don't think I aimed something wrong and as far as description of the situation is concerned, he will suspend me if I describe the whole situation here.
 
  • #35
Adesh said:
personally find “kicked out” a very derogatory and insulting remark
Depends on the context. It is kind of legendary and a good reason to brag about being kicked out from (the bush around) a women's bath for peeking :oldbiggrin:

Adesh said:
Reason given in formal letter is “Whining” and I don’t know what does that mean?
That place sounds like not as good as a bath to brag about, but still, you are still free to be happy about leaving it o0)
 
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Rive said:
Depends on the context. It is kind of legendary and a good reason to brag about being kicked out from (the bush around) a women's bath for peeking :oldbiggrin:That place sounds like not as good as a bath to brag about, but still, you are still free to be happy about leaving it o0)
Thanks for such a positive reply, I really felt good after reading it.
 
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I think it's time to close this thread now.
 
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