Isosceles Triangular Prism Related Rates Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a related rates problem involving an isosceles triangular prism-shaped trough being filled with water. The key equation for the volume of the prism is established, and participants discuss how to relate the base width (b) and height (h) of the triangle to find the rate of change of the water level (dh/dt). A participant struggles with differentiating the volume equation correctly and seeks clarification on the relationship between b and h. Ultimately, the correct relationship is identified as b = 5h, leading to further calculations to determine the rate at which the water level rises. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly setting up the equations and understanding geometric relationships in related rates problems.
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Homework Statement



A trough is 9 ft long and its ends have the shape of isosceles triangles that are 5 ft across at the top and have a height of 1 ft. If the trough is being filled with water at a rate of 14 ft3/min, how fast is the water level rising when the water is 7 inches deep?

I know b, h, l, dv/dt, dl/dt.
I need to first find db/dt then solve for dh/dt

Homework Equations



Volume of Iso. triangular prism= 1/2bh*l
dv/dt=1/2bh(dl/dt)+l(1/2b(dh/dt)+1/2h(db/dt)

I assume that dl/dt=0, so the new equation for the derivative is equal to.. dv/dt=l(1/2b(dh/dt)+1/2h(db/dt)

The Attempt at a Solution


If anyone could just give me some direction where to start in solving for db/dt that would be great!
 
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Hi maladroit! Welcome to PF! :smile:
maladroit said:
Volume of Iso. triangular prism= 1/2bh*l
dv/dt=1/2bh(dl/dt)+l(1/2b(dh/dt)+1/2h(db/dt)

oooh, that's far too complicated! :cry:

There's a relation between b and h, so write b in terms of h, and then differentiate! :wink:
 
That seems to be just what my problem is... I can't see the relationship between b and h.

I tried setting up a triangle and solving for what b is equal to in terms of h but I am still getting the wrong answer.
I used cos(theta)=(1/2b)/h, differentiated, and solved for what db/dt was equal to.
 
maladroit said:
That seems to be just what my problem is... I can't see the relationship between b and h.

uhh? :confused: … it's a triangle … it's the same all the way up … b = 5h.
 
Once I replaced the db/dt with the 5dh/dt and solved for the problem I got .4817 ft/min but that was incorrect.

The equation I used was...
14=9(1/2*5(dh/dt)+1/2*(7/12)5(dh/dt)
 
maladroit said:
The equation I used was...
14=9(1/2*5(dh/dt)+1/2*(7/12)5(dh/dt)

Sorry, not following that :confused:

can you write it out properly: what is v in terms of h, then what is dv/dt in terms of h, then what is dv/dt when h = 7/12. :smile:
 
Right!
I used the same equation I put before
dv/dt=l(1/2b(dh/dt)+1/2h(db/dt))
and, differentiating b=5h,

dv/dt=l(1/2b(dh/dt)+1/2h(5dh/dt))

Also, I really appreciate your help!
 
hmm … v = (22.5)h2, dv/dt = … ? :wink:
 
oh! I differentiated much too early... thank you so much for your help!
 

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