It seems so simple, But what do I know?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a practical problem related to modifying a roll bar made from 1" square tubing. Participants explore how to increase the overall width by 2 inches without significantly altering the design, focusing on the implications of adjusting the length and measurements of the tubing.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the need to increase the overall width of a roll bar by 2 inches and mentions attempts to adjust the length and measurements without success.
  • Another participant questions whether the goal is to maximize the area enclosed by the tubing given a fixed length and angles, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the problem.
  • A third participant clarifies their intention to spread specific sides of the roll bar apart by 2 inches and notes that previous attempts to adjust the length and measurement did not yield the desired results.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of the proposed solution, asking for clarification on what went wrong during the attempts to implement the changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations of the problem and the effectiveness of the proposed solutions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the approach to modifying the roll bar.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved details regarding the specific measurements and angles involved in the design, as well as the assumptions about how changes to the length and measurements would affect the overall structure.

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Not much. I am not sure where to put this so mods move it as need

Anyways here is the back story,
We have been building this roll bar out of 1" square tubing but we need to gain 2" overall width without changing much. the first thing I could think to do is add 2" overall length of the tubing and add the 2" into the B measurement and that maybe made it half inch bigger, We have tried lots of other things and none seem to work.

So I am turning to the internet for help.

Thank you for your time.

PS the angles are pre-set into the bender
 

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Hey justin_jkj and welcome to the forums.

I'm not sure what you are trying to do: are you trying to get the biggest area given some length of tube? (The area being the area enclosed within all four sides A,B,C,D and the horizontal line).

Are you trying to get the biggest area with a length of tube and fixed angles for your piece of equipment? (The machinery that shapes the tube according to the preset angles?)
 
Im trying to spread side A and side D apart by 2".

but adding 2" to the overall length and then into the B measurement did not work at all.
 
If B is parallel to the line at the bottom and the angles stay the same, I can't see why this wouldn't work.

Can you describe what went wrong when you tried this?
 

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