Iterated trigonometric differentiation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of iterated differentiation and integration of trigonometric functions, specifically the derivatives and integrals of sine and cosine functions expressed in a generalized form. Participants explore the implications and interpretations of these equations, as well as the concept of fractional calculus.

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  • One participant presents equations for iterated differentiation and integration of sine and cosine functions, seeking evaluations and comments.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of the presented equations, indicating a need for clarification on the concepts involved.
  • A different participant expresses approval of the equations and inquires whether the original poster is attempting to find the half-derivative of trigonometric functions.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the concept of iteration in mathematics, with an example of iterated derivatives applied to a polynomial function.
  • There is a suggestion that the discussion may relate to fractional calculus, with a specific mention of a half-derivative of sine functions.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the original equations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the implications of the presented concepts.

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Some participants appear to be uncertain about the definitions and implications of iterated differentiation and fractional calculus, highlighting a potential gap in understanding the mathematical concepts involved.

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These are some equations that I recently developed and submitting for review.

Evaluations?, comments?

Iterated trigonometric differentiation:
[tex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n} \sin x = \sin \left(x + \frac{n \pi}{2} \right)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n} \cos x = \cos \left(x + \frac{n \pi}{2} \right)[/tex]

Iterated trigonometric integration:
[tex](I^n \sin)(x) = \sin \left( x - \frac{n \pi}{2} \right)[/tex]
[tex](I^n \cos)(x) = \cos \left( x - \frac{n \pi}{2} \right)[/tex]
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How do you understand math like that what does that all mean.
 
Looks fine to me. Are you trying to find the half-derivative of trig functions?
 
How do you understand math like that what does that all mean?

Iteration is a 'repeated' process used in higher order mathematics, for example:
[tex]\frac{d^2}{dx^2} x^3 = \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{d}{dx} x^3 \right) = \frac{d}{dx} \left( 3x^2 \right) = 6x[/tex]

Therefore, the second iterated derivative of this function is:
[tex]\frac{d^2}{dx^2} x^3 = 6x[/tex]

The derivative is repeatedly derived twice, or 'iterated' twice.

Are you trying to find the half-derivative of trig functions?
Negative, are you referring to 'fractional' calculus?
Is this a demonstration of a half-derivative trig function?
[tex]\frac{d^{\frac{1}{2}}}{dx^{\frac{1}{2}}} \sin x = \sin \left(x + \frac{\pi}{4} \right)[/tex]
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