It's not there, go to the Web Hohoha

  • Thread starter Thread starter dijkarte
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Web
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the practice of textbooks, particularly in university settings, providing some content exclusively online rather than in the physical copies. Participants explore the implications of this approach, including cost, accessibility, and the evolving nature of scientific knowledge.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the rationale behind omitting certain chapters from the physical textbook, suggesting it could be to reduce size and cost.
  • Others argue that online content allows for updates as scientific knowledge progresses, addressing the issue of textbooks becoming outdated.
  • A participant expresses frustration about needing software that is only available on outdated media, highlighting accessibility issues.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential commercialization of knowledge, suggesting that this trend may compromise quality.
  • One participant proposes that authors could prioritize printing essential content while making software-related material available online, reflecting on the rapid changes in technology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons for the online content's existence or its implications. Multiple competing views remain regarding the balance between cost, accessibility, and the evolution of educational materials.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the motivations of authors and publishers, as well as the impact of technology on educational resources. The discussion also reflects varying perspectives on the importance of physical versus digital content in textbooks.

dijkarte
Messages
190
Reaction score
0
Any idea why some textbooks especially those used in universities make some of their content available through the web, not included in the book? What's the point? I cannot see adding extra less than 100 pages an issue.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I'm not sure that I understand your question. However in general I can see a big disadvantage in paper textbooks. They age because science advances. Obviously more in some field than in others and newer and newer editions are required. And if you're not buying the newest edition, you may be learning the wrong things.

Online textbooks can be adapted as science progresses.

But I guess that wasn't the answer.
 
Sorry for not wording my question properly. I meant to ask that some chapters/sections of books are not included in the hard copy version, and readers have to go to the book's website to get the missing content. Though the content is listed in the book TOC, it's made available only online.
 
I'm guessing here, but it is true that most textbooks are bigger than they need to be for any single course. By making some chapters available online, the size of the book, and thus it's price and shipping cost are kept lower. I'm guessing that the online chapters could be considered "optional" or "extension" material. Again, it's only a guess.
 
I've got a copy of Modern Physics by Serway, Moses, and Moyer. It comes with a 3.5" floppy with some software on it. You can't follow some of the examples without the software and you can't do some of the problems. I don't have a floppy reader on my computer so I can't use it. I wish the material on that disk were available online.
 
Well makes sense to keep the cost lower than it would be with those extensions. But it's becoming a fashion all authors using it. I could name some books but I don't want to make them look bad...so I will stay general. One book is less than 500 pages yet it contains several chapters which I consider important to be there. The book in the end could be used in advanced courses, by non students as a reference...etc. Nonetheless the books is super expensive at least for its size.
My guess here the authors, which are professors, want the readers somehow to reach their websites, which are very likely universities' websites...sort of advertisement? Could be far from truth but I still cannot see how less than 10% of the book size will make the price much higher. It's already high.
I'm worried here because when knowledge becomes a business then it's in danger. Exactly like with any other product, the quality goes down.
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
I've got a copy of Modern Physics by Serway, Moses, and Moyer. It comes with a 3.5" floppy with some software on it. You can't follow some of the examples without the software and you can't do some of the problems. I don't have a floppy reader on my computer so I can't use it. I wish the material on that disk were available online.

NEXARK SABRENT External USB 1.44 MB 2x Floppy Disk Drive

:biggrin:
 
I've a better idea for authors. What about instead of embedding screenshots of a computer software and its script...they could make this stuff available online and have the more related chapters printed on paper. :-) Software changes faster than the core subject of the book especially if it's math or physics related. So let's make more sense of the extremely expensive books.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
4K
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
22
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K