Jackson Electrodynamics problem 6.5b

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The discussion revolves around a problem from Jackson's Electrodynamics concerning the momentum of electromagnetic fields generated by a localized electric charge distribution and a time-independent current density. The participants are exploring the mathematical relationships and transformations involved in deriving expressions for the field momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the momentum of the electromagnetic fields by substituting the electric field in terms of the electrostatic potential and integrating by parts. They express uncertainty regarding the second part of the problem, particularly in simplifying the integrals involved.
  • Some participants suggest referencing specific sections of Jackson's text to clarify the relationships between the integrals and the expressions for momentum and magnetic moment.
  • Others propose writing out the components of the integrals to verify the equality, acknowledging that this may not constitute a formal derivation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and references to relevant sections of the textbook. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the relationships between the integrals and the desired expressions, although no consensus has been reached on the final outcome. The original poster expresses appreciation for the guidance received.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented in the homework statement, which requires careful handling of integrals and assumptions about the localization of the current distribution. There is an acknowledgment of the need to show specific relationships without deriving complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


A localized electric charge distribution produces an electrostatic field,
<br /> {\bf E}=-\nabla \phi <br />
Into this field is placed a small localized time-independent current density J(x) which generates a magnetic field H.
a) show that the momentum of these electromagnetic fields, (6.117), can be transformed to
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=\frac{1}{c^2}\int \phi {\bf J} d^3x <br />

b) Assuming that the current distribution is localized to a region small compared to the scale of variation of the electric field, expand the electrostatic potential in a Taylor series and show that
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=\frac{1}{c^2}{\bf E(0)\times m}<br />
where E(0) is the electric field at the current distribution and m is the magnetic moment (5.54), caused by the current.

Homework Equations


(6.117):
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=\mu_0 \epsilon_0 \int {\bf E \times H} d^3x<br />
(5.54):
<br /> {\bf m}=\frac{1}{2} \int {\bf x&#039; \times J(x&#039;)} d^3x&#039;<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


Part a) was straight forward: subsituting E=- grad phi and integrating by parts gives the answer plus a surface integral that goes to 0 if phi*H goes to 0 faster than 1/r^2.

Part b): This is where I get stuck. I tried to put
<br /> \phi=\phi(0)+\nabla \phi(0)\cdot{\bf x}<br />
which replaced in the integral for P_field from a) gives
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=-\frac{1}{c^2} \int {\bf (E(0)\cdot x) J)} d^3x<br />
if I choose the potential to zero at the origin. Further, using
<br /> {\bf a\times (b\times c)=(a\cdot c) b-(a\cdot b)c}<br />
on the integrand I get
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=\frac{1}{c^2} (\int {\bf E(0)\times (x\times J) }d^3x-\int{\bf (E(0)\cdot J)x}\,d^3x)<br />
The first integral is as far I can see
<br /> \frac{2}{c^2} {\bf E(0)\times m}<br />
that is, twice the answer. The second integral gets me stuck. I guess I should show that it is equal to minus half of the answer (if I did everything correctly so far), but I don't see how to do this.

I would appreciate if anyone could give me a hint on how to continue or if I'm on the right track at all. Thanks in advance!
 
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Somewhere else in Jackson (and other texts) it is shown the second integral
equals EXm. It's in Sec. 5.6 of the 2nd Edition, if you can follow it.
 
If you believe that the second integral is indeed equal to Exm, then why not simply write them both out in components to prove it? Granted it's not really a proper derivation, but you were only asked to show that the formula is true.
 
Thanks for your replies, it was very helpful! Using section 5.6 of Jackson as you said I saw that I could show directly that the first integral
<br /> {\bf P_{field}}=-\frac{1}{c^2} \int {\bf (E(0)\cdot x) J)} d^3x<br />
is equal to the sought answer without using the abc vector rule. Looking below eq. 5.52 (in the 3rd edition) and substituting x by E(0) the whole derivation is there.
 
How about the part C
 

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