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Bobby Jindal's national debut received widespread criticism, with many viewing his performance as unprofessional and lacking substance. Observers noted his delivery was awkward and condescending, leading to comparisons with less favorable public figures. The discussion also highlighted broader concerns about the Republican Party's leadership, questioning whether Jindal and others like Sarah Palin represent the best the party can offer. Critics argued that the party is struggling to present a compelling alternative to President Obama, whose perceived effectiveness has overshadowed Republican efforts. The conversation shifted to blame for the economic crisis, with some arguing that the current administration's policies are exacerbating issues like the national debt and stock market instability. Participants debated the implications of deregulation and the role of past administrations in the financial turmoil, with a consensus that the Republican Party needs to reevaluate its approach and leadership to regain credibility. Overall, Jindal's performance was seen as a missed opportunity for the GOP to present a strong counter-narrative to the Democratic administration.
  • #51
LowlyPion said:
Uh-oh. The simplistic heroic vignettes that Jindal offered up weren't entirely true?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal_admits_katrina_story_was_false.php

The Government get out of my way homily romanticized and regurgitated for self serving ends?

Oh Bobby. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.
You posted to quickly, Politico posted a retraction.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Jindal_aide_Story_was_set_after_Katrina.html?showall
'During Katrina' has to be stretched to mean during the flooding and rescue operations some days after the physical storm, but otherwise there is no factual contradiction to the Governor's tale in any respect.
 
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  • #52
mheslep said:
You posted to quickly, Politico posted a retraction.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Jindal_aide_Story_was_set_after_Katrina.html?showall
'During Katrina' has to be stretched to mean during the flooding and rescue operations some days after the physical storm, but otherwise there is no factual contradiction to the Governor's tale in any respect.

That's not a retraction. That account is also linked referenced and excerpted from in the story I posted.

As to what Lee may have said or not ... he's conveniently passed away as far as Jindal's account is concerned and can neither confirm nor deny Jinal's role in the episode.
 
  • #53
LowlyPion said:
That's not a retraction.
Clearly
UPDATE: I'd initially misunderstood Sellers to be saying Jindal and Lee didn't meet while rescue efforts were still underway.
is a retraction.
 
  • #54
mheslep said:
You posted to quickly, Politico posted a retraction.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Jindal_aide_Story_was_set_after_Katrina.html?showall
'During Katrina' has to be stretched to mean during the flooding and rescue operations some days after the physical storm, but otherwise there is no factual contradiction to the Governor's tale in any respect.

You're the one missing the point. How could I have posted too quickly when the link that you cite for that (of a subsequent retraction) was already a part of the article that I posted?

As it stands talking about the events the week after the storm is not nearly as dramatic as the heroic image Bobby apparently would have hoped to have impressed people with as being more immediate. His conceit is no worse of course than Hilary claiming to be ducking bullets in Bosnia.

In the race for 2012 it's likely moot, as Jindal looks to have delivered such a condescendingly simplistic monologue trying to inflame the base as to have turned even Conservatives numb. Fudging a few facts isn't likely to matter or be remembered as he reacquaints himself with lowered expectations.
 
  • #55
Meanwhile, another Jindal faux pas:
Alaskans fume over Jindal volcano-monitoring gripe
...Jindal appears to have exaggerated by tenfold the $140 million he said was destined for the nation's volcano observatories.

Nearly all of that amount -- included in the stimulus bill for funding U.S. Geological Survey projects -- will go to other USGS functions nationwide, such as repairing facilities and mapping, said John Eichelberger, who heads the agency's Volcano Hazards Program in Reston, Va.

Only about $14 million will be spent on "monitoring volcanoes," mostly in Alaska, he said.
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/702875.html
 
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  • #56
And still more commentary on Jindal from Ed Rollins:
ROLLINS: I would say this was a good night for Sarah Palin.
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/president-obama/gop-strategist-jindals-speech-was-painful-and-a-good-night-for-sarah-palin/

Egads. Surely the Republicans won't be that desperate for another shellacking in 2012.
 
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  • #57
I saw an interview with Jindal on 60 mins today, and the more I learn about him, the less I want to know.

a.) he's a creationist that wants to teach Intellegent Design in classrooms
b.) He turned down harvard medical school and law school. (Probably should have stayed in school and learned about evolution...)
c.) He legally changed his name to 'bobby' because he liked the character from the brandy bunch growing up.....talk about sucking up to voters with a crock of BS.
e.) He's ashamed of his indian culture, so he says he's JOHN Q AMERIKUN HOW YALL FOLKS DOIN?
f.) His wife is hot.
g.) His wife is hot.

This guy comes off as a sack of crap, even for a politician. He's like palin, probably a really nice guy to know. Not to run things.
 
  • #58
Plus, this guy needs to eat some food...

bobby-jindal-shaking-hands.jpg
 
  • #59
Cyrus said:
I saw an interview with Jindal on 60 mins today, and the more I learn about him, the less I want to know.

a.) he's a creationist that wants to teach Intellegent Design in classrooms
b.) He turned down harvard medical school and law school. (Probably should have stayed in school and learned about evolution...)
c.) He legally changed his name to 'bobby' because he liked the character from the brandy bunch growing up.....talk about sucking up to voters with a crock of BS.
e.) He's ashamed of his indian culture, so he says he's JOHN Q AMERIKUN HOW YALL FOLKS DOIN?
f.) His wife is hot.
g.) His wife is hot.

This guy comes off as a sack of crap, even for a politician. He's like palin, probably a really nice guy to know. Not to run things.

What's surprising is that he earned his bachelor degree in biology, so he should be well informed on the principles of evolution.

Anyways, the guy's got nothing on Obama.
 
  • #60
Cyrus said:
I saw an interview with Jindal on 60 mins today, and the more I learn about him, the less I want to know.

a.) he's a creationist that wants to teach Intellegent Design in classrooms
b.) He turned down harvard medical school and law school. (Probably should have stayed in school and learned about evolution...)
c.) He legally changed his name to 'bobby' because he liked the character from the brandy bunch growing up.....talk about sucking up to voters with a crock of BS.
e.) He's ashamed of his indian culture, so he says he's JOHN Q AMERIKUN HOW YALL FOLKS DOIN?
f.) His wife is hot.
g.) His wife is hot.
He passed by law school to attend Oxford on a Rhodes. I don't think what this country needs is yet another Yale lawyer to go along with the one million it already has.
This guy comes off as a sack of crap, even for a politician...
Interesting, I had the same opinion of this unsubstantiated post.

Gov. Jindal seems to have turned the corner on corruption in a state that most thought hopelessly stricken with it. By most reports he's real, he's smart, he's honest, and doesn't to much preening in the mirror. Maybe w), x), y), z) are reserved for those character traits.
 
  • #61
mheslep said:
He passed by law school to attend Oxford on a Rhodes. I don't think what this country needs is yet another Yale lawyer to go along with the one million it already has.
Interesting, I had the same opinion of this unsubstantiated post.

Gov. Jindal seems to have turned the corner on corruption in a state that most thought hopelessly stricken with it. By most reports he's real, he's smart, he's honest, and doesn't to much preening in the mirror. Maybe w), x), y), z) are reserved for those character traits.

And what do you make of his beliefs in exorcism and his advocacy for the teaching of intelligent design in schools?
 
  • #62
Werg22 said:
And what do you make of his beliefs in exorcism and his advocacy for the teaching of intelligent design in schools?
Jindal not only claimed to have exorcised a demon from a female friend - he also claimed in a conservative Catholic journal that the procedure cured her of cancer. So much for his "intelligence".
 
  • #63
So he ridicules the railroad part of the stimulus package, and then the state will still apply for a portion of the funds?
Louisiana to seek New Orleans-Baton Rouge passenger rail line from federal stimulus pot that Jindal called wasteful
by Robert Travis Scott, The Times-Picayune
Saturday February 28, 2009, 8:00 AM

BATON ROUGE - Louisiana's transportation department plans to request federal dollars for a New Orleans to Baton Rouge passenger rail service from the same pot of railroad money in the president's economic stimulus package that Gov. Bobby Jindal criticized as unnecessary pork on national television Tuesday night.

The high-speed rail line, a topic of discussion for years, would require $110 million to upgrade existing freight lines and terminals to handle a passenger train operation, said Mark Lambert, spokesman for the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development.
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/louisiana_to_seek_new_orleansb.html
 
  • #64
mheslep said:
He passed by law school to attend Oxford on a Rhodes. I don't think what this country needs is yet another Yale lawyer to go along with the one million it already has.
Interesting, I had the same opinion of this unsubstantiated post.

Gov. Jindal seems to have turned the corner on corruption in a state that most thought hopelessly stricken with it. By most reports he's real, he's smart, he's honest, and doesn't to much preening in the mirror. Maybe w), x), y), z) are reserved for those character traits.

lol, ok...whatever you say there buddy. A guy who supports ID and has claimed to perform an exorcism while curing cancer seem's like a nutjob to me.
 
  • #65
LowlyPion said:
Aside from voting against slavery Lincoln didn't have that productive a legislative career. Writing noteworthy legislation is a rather curious metric to judge a leader. What legislation did Washington initiate before becoming President?

Education is a must.

To begin with Lincoln did not vote against slavery in the executive branch, not legislative.

Writing noteworthy legislation is the most important metric for a person in the legislative branch of government.

Washington was not a legislative member of Congress. He was in the military. He would be measured by his leadership in the military before his election.

A person can be judged by their history. A job seeker fills out an application or resume to apply for a job today. If your job was in the legislature then your work as a legislator is the metric.

How silly to suggest that your work experience is a "curious metric."

Yet another flip-flop in decision making! Are you going to claim that Obama has never flip-flopped? He just flip-flopped again and this time it is on earmarks.
 
  • #66
Of course, Jindal promotes teaching a 'balanced' version of creationism and evolution in the classroom. See the Scientific American.
 
  • #67
Jindal apparently undeterred by his disastrous speech after the President's speech to Congress, will place himself in jeopardy once again tonight speaking during/before Obama's prime time Press Conference. I sense another unfavorable comparison. Though given how pitiful his reviews were last time I doubt he can do worse than before.
Louisiana governor again speaking opposite Obama
By BEN EVANS – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will again carry the Republican mantle opposite a primetime appearance from President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h93PuGaXuabIlsfIefGAw_780GdQD974HUT02

Jindal so far has not shown himself to be even a Douglass to Obama's Lincoln.
 
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  • #68
turbo-1 said:
Obama is now responsible for all the market dynamics that were handed to him after 8 years of negligence. Didn't you get the memo?

Come on, Turbo. It was hardly neglected. The prime rate didn't just go down on it's own. It may have been bad policy, but not neglect. Any negligence in efforts to cool the stock market occurred in 1994-2000. I don't recall any legislation passed in those years to prevent a market bubble. People were too enamored with their capital gains to chill-down that which put $dollar$ sign in their eyes.
 
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hokie1 said:
Writing noteworthy legislation is the most important metric for a person in the legislative branch of government.

We're talking law students and interns, right?
 

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