John Bolton Lied to Congress: UN Ambassador Appointment?

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The discussion revolves around the appointment of John Bolton as the U.S. delegate to the United Nations and allegations regarding his honesty in congressional testimony. Participants explore the implications of his past statements, particularly in relation to the Valerie Plame leak investigation and the Iraq war claims, while questioning the integrity of the nomination process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Bolton lied to Congress about not being involved in any inquiries, citing his past testimony in the Valerie Plame case.
  • Others argue that the definition of "administrative" in the context of Bolton's testimony is ambiguous, suggesting that his involvement with the State Department and CIA may not constitute a lie.
  • Concerns are raised about the broader implications of Bolton's appointment, with some participants expressing distrust in the current administration's choices and processes.
  • Several participants draw parallels between Bolton's nomination and other controversial appointments, suggesting a pattern of questionable integrity among officials associated with the Iraq war.
  • Some express frustration with the political maneuvering surrounding Bolton's nomination and the implications for U.S. leadership at the United Nations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Bolton lied or the implications of his past actions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of his statements and the appropriateness of his nomination.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of political appointments and the varying interpretations of testimony, with unresolved questions about definitions and the implications of Bolton's past actions on his suitability for the UN role.

  • #61
edward said:
Ahmad Chalabi had a great influence on the Bush administration. Nearly everything he told them about Iraq was lies lies and more lies.
Leave it to the Bush administration to trust a man convicted of embezzling.

edward said:
The administration fell for his lies because he was telling them what they wanted to hear, such as "There are mobile bioweapons factories in Iraq", and much much more. The administration paid Chalabi over $33 million for his services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalabi

The CIA could easily have picked his lies apart. Why didn't they?
Ever wonder why the head of the CIA got the medal of freedom for doing such a horrible job?

The lie that I found most telling was the one Condi Rice told when she insisted the anodized aluminum tubes were for enriching uranium. Not only were they the wrong size and shape, anodizing renders them useless to the enrichment process.

Anyone who takes the time to research and inform themselves on this subject would have a very difficult time not concluding that this war was sold to us the same way we are sold any other consumer product.

By the way, John Bolton was the main guy going around the CIA making sure that the analysts towed the line and "fixed the facts and intelligence" to fit the administrations policy. He was also on the Bush legal team opposing the democratic principle of counting votes in Florida 2000. Just the guy we need to promote truth and democracy.
 
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8786915/

"Bolton appointment sends message to the U.N.
White House looking to shake things up with hard-line appointee"
NBC News - Aug. 1, 2005
What will the political repercussions be of Bush’s recess appointment of Bolton?

Well, he is certainly going to alienate Democrats who don’t feel that Bolton has any credibility and who think he is an undiplomatic choice for a diplomatic post at the United Nations.
So here is a president who has already alienated the world and divided his country... Sounds like a good idea to me to "shake up things" in the international arena and to diss folks on the other side of the aisle again. :bugeye:
 

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