John Edward: A Genuine Medium or a Cold-Reading Fraud?

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The discussion centers around John Edward, a well-known medium and host of the TV show "Crossing Over," who claims to communicate with the deceased. Participants express skepticism about his abilities, suggesting he employs techniques like cold reading, suggestibility, and NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) to create the illusion of genuine communication. Some believe he may have a unique skill set that allows him to connect with people on a deeper emotional level, while others argue that he exploits grief for profit, likening him to a charlatan. The conversation also touches on the ethical implications of his work, questioning whether providing comfort through potentially false claims is justifiable. Ultimately, there is a consensus that while Edward may bring solace to some, his methods are fundamentally deceptive and should not be considered a legitimate service.
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Ivan Seeking said:
I'm not asking if lying is okay. I am asking if he provides a valuable service when he provides comfort to people who have suffered a loss.
I rather suspect that a psychologist would not consider self-delusion to be a reasonable technique for dealing with loss.

And whether or not you are deling with the question of fraud, the issue doesn't go away. It's still fraud to charge money for a service you are not providing. That said, I think that the fact that the victims are dual victims is worse than the fraud itself.
 
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I would so love there to be an afterlife or a god or just to know we go on to another existence in some shape or form no one wants to think they just turn to ashes and the whole memory and experience we have with loved ones just goes to complete darkness, but for alsong as time began man asked this question or belief in a higher power but got no answer (not without a reasonable doubt PROOF) or to see the light so to speak so the answer is already there NO PROOF NO ANSWER = NO GOD NO AFTERLIFE NO FUTURE EXISTENCE. we basically are born to eat **** and die! oh for those still living we have pain and death to look forward to what a wonderful climax to a miserable existence...
Characters like Edward who exploit people's grief to line their own pockets are
the lowest of the low, barely one step above medical quacks and charlatons. and if you truly believe in your heart for this to be any different then you are completely and truly diluded and beyond help you might as well also believe in the tooth fairy & santa claus.
sorry to sounds so doom and gloom but is best for people to know the truth however painful and disturbing this maybe to there beliefs and outlook on life or afterlife of which there is not plain and simple.
 
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I totally agree with you! Characters like Edward who exploit people's grief to line their own pockets are the lowest of the low, barely one step above medical quacks and charlatons. and if you truly believe in your heart for this to be any different then you are completely and truly diluded and beyond help you might as well also believe in the tooth fairy & santa claus.
 
  • #34
Hanfonius said:
I am reading these responses as to whether John Edward provides a 'service' to the bereaved: the mother who has lost her son in a terrible accident is assured that he didn't suffer, and that he is happy where he is.

If she believes in the afterlife, then she may well be consoled. In this instance, then John Edward has indeed provided a service.

It is in no way good at all to tell these people lies or con them or give them false hope it is the lowest of the low, people deserve the truth however painful this maybe there are far too many diluded people in the world beliving in things they cannot see, science has provided lots of facts to people which were misguided, in denial or ignorant to the truth.
 
  • #35
This thread has been dead for two and a half years. There is a newer thread on John Edward here somewhere.
 
  • #36
Either way, I think the answe is a flat: "yes, he's a genuine cold-reading fraud... what the hell did you expect?"
 

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