Just a question on terminal velocity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of terminal velocity in the context of forces acting on an object, specifically the balance between gravitational force and air resistance. Participants explore the definition of terminal velocity and its implications in different scenarios.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions why terminal velocity must be constant and how gravity can balance air resistance. Some participants explore the relationship between air resistance and speed, suggesting that increased air resistance leads to a lower terminal velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about the balance of forces at terminal velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between air resistance and speed, but multiple interpretations of the concept are being explored.

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Participants are considering the implications of varying air resistance and its effect on reaching terminal velocity, as well as the nature of acceleration when forces are balanced.

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It is a definition that the terminal velocity is the same as constant velocity where the net force is 0 and therefore the acceleration is also 0

Here is what I don't get, why must the terminal velocity must such that it is constant? I know that to be "terminal" it means it can no longer change it's velocity, but how come gravity will able to counteract it such that the sum of forces is 0? I mean what if air resistance is so strong that gravity can't counteract it? Wouldn't it mean the sum of forces is no longer 0 and the terminal velocity can never be reached or at that point, that is the terminal velocity?
 
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hi flyingpig! :wink:
flyingpig said:
… what if air resistance is so strong that gravity can't counteract it? Wouldn't it mean the sum of forces is no longer 0 and the terminal velocity can never be reached or at that point, that is the terminal velocity?

air resistance depends on speed

if air resistance is very strong, that means that it is very much stronger than usual for each particular speed

so air resistance will balance gravity at a lower speed …

ie terminal velocity is lower :smile:

(oh, and terminal velocity is never quite reached anyway … the speed gets exponentially close to terminal velocity :wink:)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi flyingpig! :wink:


air resistance depends on speed

if air resistance is very strong, that means that it is very much stronger than usual for each particular speed

so air resistance will balance gravity at a lower speed …

ie terminal velocity is lower :smile:

(oh, and terminal velocity is never quite reached anyway … the speed gets exponentially close to terminal velocity :wink:)

That is even more confusing now...

I just don't understand why or how gravity can balance out the terminal speed.
 
when v = 0, air resistance (let's call it R(v)) is 0,

so using a = F/m, we have a = mg/m = g

when R(v) is larger, a = (g - R(v))/m < g;

eventually R(v) = g, and then a = 0, ie the speed is constant :smile:
 

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