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The discussion revolves around a differential equation involving a function f and its derivatives, specifically the equation xf'' + f' + xf = 0. Participants are trying to understand the implications of taking the nth derivative of a related expression and the conditions under which certain terms vanish.

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  • Participants are questioning the transition to zero when taking the nth derivative of the expression, as well as the introduction of the radius of convergence "r". There is also confusion regarding the validity of certain steps in the solution provided in a solution sheet.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about specific steps in the derivation and the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nth derivative, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the solution manual's claims.

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There is mention of a solution sheet that may contain errors, and participants are trying to clarify the context of the problem, including the significance of the radius of convergence and the specific form of the equation being analyzed.

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I just don't understand why it goes like this...why 'therefore'?

i know (x^2)f''(x)+xf'(x)+((x^2)-1)f(x)) = x(xf''(x)+f'(x)+xf(x)) - f(x), but why it goes to zero when taking (d^n/dx^n)?
 

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"It is given that xf"+ f'+ xf= 0"

and then it concluded
[tex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2f"+ xf '+ (x^2-1)f)= 0[/tex]
for any positive integer n and for x in (-r, r).

There is clearly something missing. Where did that "r" come from? Was there something more before this?
 
Sorry, i shouldve made things clearer.
Here is everything before this. r is the radius of convergence.
 

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Hmmm..it's actually on a solution sheet. I stuck at that point when i tried to go through it again before midterm...

the question is here, just in case. Thank you soooo much!
 

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can anyone tell me...

If xf"+f'+xf = 0

Is d^n/dx^n (xf"+f'+xf) = 0 ??

cos the solution says d^n/dx^n [x(xf"+f'+f)-f] = 0...that puzzles me. --'
 
toni said:
can anyone tell me...

If xf"+f'+xf = 0

Is d^n/dx^n (xf"+f'+xf) = 0 ??

Yes, since

[tex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n} (xf''+f'+xf)=\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(0)=0[/tex]

; that is, since the quantity your taking the nth derivative of is by supposition always zero...

cos the solution says d^n/dx^n [x(xf"+f'+f)-f] = 0...that puzzles me. --'

That puzzles me too!...

[tex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n} [x(xf''+f'+xf)-f]=\frac{d^n}{dx^n}[(0)-f]=\frac{-d^nf}{dx^n} \neq 0[/tex]

... perhaps that line in your solutions manual was a typo, and it was supposed to be an[itex]x^2f(x)[/itex] instead of an [itex](x^2-1)f(x)[/itex]...are you sure you are looking at the solution to the given problem and nota different problem by accident?
 

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