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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of solids obtained by rotating regions bounded by specific curves about designated axes. The subject area includes calculus, specifically integral calculus and methods for calculating volumes of revolution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of integrals for volume calculations using methods such as disks and washers. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of these methods and the importance of sketching the regions involved. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the integral setups and the definitions of inner and outer radii.

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Participants are actively engaging in verifying their integral setups and discussing the appropriate methods for calculating volumes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of washers instead of disks, and there is acknowledgment of the need for clarity in defining radii. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, and there is a collaborative effort to confirm setups without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is an emphasis on setting up integrals rather than evaluating them, and some participants express uncertainty about their approaches, indicating a learning process in understanding the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.

Homework Equations



y = x^2 +1 , y = 9-x^2: about y = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



I used disks. I said that r = 1 + ((9-x^2)-(x^2 +1 )) = 9 - 2x^2
So my integral all together is

V = ∏ ∫ (9 - 2x^2)^2 dx from [-2,2]

Does this set up look correct.?
 
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Also I have another one I would like to confirm.
This one your supposed to set up the integral not evaluate for the volume of a solid.
y = tanx, y = x, x = pi/3 : about the y axis.
I have
V = 2∏∫ x(tanx - x) dx between 0 and ∏/3
I think it is good but just to be safe.
 
Jbreezy said:

Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.

Homework Equations



y = x^2 +1 , y = 9-x^2: about y = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



I used disks.
Did you draw a sketch? Actually, two sketches would be useful - one of the region defined by the two curves, and another that shows the solid of revolution.

Disks won't work, but washers will. A washer is a disk with a hole in its middle. For a typical volume element, the outer radius goes from the line y = -1 to the curve y = 9 - x2. The inner radius goes from the line y = -1 to the curve y = x2 + 1.
Jbreezy said:
I said that r = 1 + ((9-x^2)-(x^2 +1 )) = 9 - 2x^2
So my integral all together is

V = ∏ ∫ (9 - 2x^2)^2 dx from [-2,2]

Does this set up look correct.?
 
Jbreezy said:
Also I have another one I would like to confirm.
This one your supposed to set up the integral not evaluate for the volume of a solid.
y = tanx, y = x, x = pi/3 : about the y axis.
I have
V = 2∏∫ x(tanx - x) dx between 0 and ∏/3
I think it is good but just to be safe.
Looks OK to me. It would have been helpful to indicate that your using shells.
 
Mark44 said:
Did you draw a sketch? Actually, two sketches would be useful - one of the region defined by the two curves, and another that shows the solid of revolution.

Disks won't work, but washers will. A washer is a disk with a hole in its middle. For a typical volume element, the outer radius goes from the line y = -1 to the curve y = 9 - x2. The inner radius goes from the line y = -1 to the curve y = x2 + 1.

Yeah I always draw it. Sorry for the confusion with the other problem not indicating I was using shells.

So what about this. r = inner radius, R = outer radius
r = 1 + ( x^2 + 1) R = 1+ (9-x^2)
So V = ∏∫( x^2 +2)^2 - (10-x^2)^2 dx I think that is it but I have a little trouble with the radius sometimes.
 
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Jbreezy said:
Yeah I always draw it. Sorry for the confusion with the other problem not indicating I was using shells.

So what about this. r = inner radius, R = outer radius
r = 1 + ( x^2 + 1) R = 1+ (9-x^2)
So V = ∏∫( x^2 +2)^2 + (10-x^2)^2 dx I think that is it but I have a little trouble with the radius sometimes.
Your radii are correct but the integral isn't. The volume of a washer is ##\pi(R^2 - r^2)(\text{thickness})##.
 
I just mean minus. Check it out I edited.
 
V = ∏∫(10-x^2)^2 -( x^2 +2)^2 dx GRR.
 
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It is like I'm thinking one thing and typing another. Thanks for the confirmation.
 

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