Keppler's 1st Law: Examining a Proof

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The discussion revolves around examining a proof of Kepler's first law, specifically focusing on the application of Newton's laws of motion and universal gravitation. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of gravitational force in the context of conic sections.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the presence of an extra vector component in the equation and the significance of the negative sign in the gravitational force expression. There are requests for clearer explanations and alternative resources.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing clarifications regarding the vector nature of the equation and the meaning of the negative sign. However, there is still uncertainty expressed by others about these concepts, indicating a lack of complete understanding.

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Participants mention a need for clearer proofs and additional resources, suggesting that the original proof may not be sufficiently clear for all involved.

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Homework Statement


i am examining a proof of kepplers first law for my conics project and I am a bit rusty on the physics, it begins withe the following line


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To begin with, we will start off by applying Newton's law of motion and Newton's law of universal gravitation together to find that

m a = (-G m M/r^2) r

i think there is an extra r in this equation? if no where does it come from??

here is the link if it helps
http://members.kr.inter.net/joo/physics/curriculum/kepler/proof.html

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The r is in bold which indicates its a vector. So the force of gravity has a magnitude of (-G m M/r^2) along the unit vector r.
 
thanks, altho the more I am looking at this the more i don't understand it,
can anyone explain where the negative comes from?
 
or if anyone knows of a link to a clearer proof, that would be appreciated also
 
The negative is there because the force of gravity is attractive.
 

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