Kicking a Football: Vertical Distance & Velocity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of a football kicked at an angle to determine its vertical clearance over a goal post. The kicker's parameters include a distance of 29.4 meters from the goal and a height of 3.00 meters for the crossbar, with the ball being kicked at a speed of 20.0 m/s and an angle of 53.0 degrees.

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  • Participants discuss various equations related to projectile motion, including range and vertical motion equations. There is an exploration of the time it takes for the ball to reach the goal post and the vertical component of velocity at that point. Some participants express uncertainty about the applicability of the range equation and question the correctness of calculated times and heights.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to separate horizontal and vertical motion equations. There is no explicit consensus on the calculations presented, as differing opinions on the time to reach the goal post and the use of specific equations are evident.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the equations used and the assumptions underlying their calculations. There is mention of specific values and results that may require further verification or discussion.

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A kicker must kick the football from a point 29.4m from the goal and clear a bar 3.00m above the ground. The ball leaves the ground with a speed of 20.0m/s at an angle of 53.0 degrees above the horizontal.

a) By how much does the ball clear, or fall short of the cross bar?

I used the equation R=vi^2 sin2(theta)/g to see how far the football would travel.

r+19.6 So the ball wouldn't even make it to the goal post. Correct?

b) When it gets to the cross bar, what is the vertical component of the ball's velocity?

This question makes me think my answer to a) is wrong because the x component would be zero. Correct?
 
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It does go over the bar. That range equation isn't much use here.
I think you will have to write out the equations for the horizontal and vertical motion and find the time when the ball crosses the goal.
 
When is the correct time to use that range equation?


So, I used the equation
yf=yi+vyit+.5ayt^2

And found the time that the football is passing over the goal post to be t=3.06

I then used the same equation and solved for yf using 3.00 as yi and the final y at that time is 6.0

So, my answer to a) would be...3.00m


For b) I used the equation vyf=vyi+ayt

My answer is -14.0

How are those equations and answers?
 
The range equation is supposed to give the horizontal distance it flies all right. I just meant it wouldn't help you find the answer to the question. My range equation is r = 2v^2sinθcosθ/g = 39 m.

I don't agree with your time of 3.06 s. Did you work with the horizontal equation 29.4 = v*cosθ*t to get that?
 

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