Killing Vector and Ricci curvature scalar

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Homework Statement



I'm currently self-studying Carroll's GR book and get stuck by proving
the following identity:

[tex]K^\lambda \nabla _\lambda R = 0[/tex]

where K is Killing vector and R is the Ricci Scalar

Homework Equations



Mr.Carroll said that it is suffice to show this by knowing:

[tex]\nabla _\mu \nabla _\sigma K^\mu = R_{\sigma \nu}K^\nu[/tex]

Bianchi identity [tex]\nabla ^ \mu R_{\rho \mu} = \frac{1}{2} \nabla _\rho R[/tex]

and Killing equation [tex]\nabla _\mu K_\nu + \nabla _\nu K_\mu = 0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The work I done so far :

[tex]K^\lambda \nabla _\lambda R = 2 K^\lambda \nabla ^\mu R_{\mu \lambda} = 2 \left( \nabla ^\mu R_{\mu \lambda} K^\lambda -R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda \right) = 2 \nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma[/tex]

Note that [tex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda =0[/tex], since

[tex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda = - R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla^\lambda K^\mu = -R_{\lambda\mu} \nabla^\lambda K^\mu = -R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda[/tex]

And I can't get any further :cry:

Could someone help?? Thanks in advace
 
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[itex]\nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma = 0[/itex] in the same way that [itex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda =0[/itex].
 
George Jones said:
[itex]\nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma = 0[/itex] in the same way that [itex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda =0[/itex].

Hi~

[itex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda =0[/itex]
is due to the Killing Equation and the symmetry of Ricci tensor [tex]R_{\mu \lambda} = R_{\lambda \mu}[/tex]

But it seems like
[tex]\nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma \neq \nabla _\sigma \nabla ^\mu \nabla _\mu K^\sigma[/tex] ??

Thanks for Reply!
 
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Psi-String said:
Hi~

[itex]R_{\mu \lambda} \nabla ^\mu K^\lambda =0[/itex]
is due to the Killing Equation and the symmetry of Ricci tensor [tex]R_{\mu \lambda} = R_{\lambda \mu}[/tex]

But it seems like
[tex]\nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma \neq \nabla _\sigma \nabla ^\mu \nabla _\mu K^\sigma[/tex] ??

Thanks for Reply!

I think I figure it out! :redface:

[tex]\nabla ^\mu \nabla _\sigma \nabla _\mu K^\sigma[/tex]

[tex]= (g^{\mu \sigma} \nabla_\sigma) (g_{\sigma \mu}\nabla^\mu)(\nabla_\mu K^\sigma)[/tex]

[tex]= g^{\mu \sigma}g_{\sigma \mu} (\nabla _\sigma \nabla^\mu \nabla_\mu K^\sigma) + g^{\mu \sigma}(\nabla^\mu \nabla_\mu K^\sigma)(\nabla_\sigma g_{\sigma \mu})[/tex]

[tex]= \nabla_\sigma \nabla^\mu \nabla_\mu K^\sigma[/tex]

the second term of the third line vanishes due to metric compatibility.

Is the above correct??:rolleyes:
 
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Psi-String said:
Is the above correct??:rolleyes:

Yes, metric compatibility is used, but be careful with the indices. You have used [itex]\mu[/itex] and [itex]\sigma[/itex] four times each in the product [itex](g^{\mu \sigma} \nabla_\sigma) (g_{\sigma \mu}\nabla^\mu)(\nabla_\mu K^\sigma)[/itex].
 
I noticed that. But I can't derive it out if I use different indices...

I don't know how to turn

[tex]g^{\mu \sigma}g_{\lambda \rho}(\nabla_\sigma \nabla^\rho \nabla _\mu K^\lambda)[/tex]

into

[tex]\nabla _\lambda \nabla^\mu \nabla_\mu K^\lambda[/tex]