Killing Vector Fields: Generating Local Transformations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether a Killing vector field can generate a diffeomorphism that only shifts points within a small region of a manifold while preserving points outside that region. The scope includes theoretical considerations of differential geometry and the properties of isometries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a Killing vector field can generate a local transformation that only affects a small part of the manifold.
  • Another participant notes that by definition, Killing vector fields generate isometries and expresses skepticism about the existence of a global Killing vector field that fixes the entire manifold except for a small part.
  • A third participant argues that for a connected manifold, it is unlikely that a Killing vector field can vanish outside an enclosed region, referencing the properties of flat metrics and the linear superposition of Killing vector fields.
  • A fourth participant proposes a reasoning based on the preservation of geodesics by isometries, suggesting that if an isometry is the identity outside a small region, it leads to a contradiction regarding the uniqueness of geodesics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the possibility of a Killing vector field generating such a local transformation. There is no consensus, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence on the properties of the manifold and the nature of Killing vector fields, suggesting that assumptions about the metric and the connectedness of the manifold are critical to the discussion.

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Can a killing vector field generate a diffeomorphism that only shifts points inside a small part of the manifold and preserves points outside of it?

Rotation preserves the metric of a sphere but shifts every points on the sphere, I'd to find out if there is a killing vector field that generates local transformation?
 
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kakarukeys said:
Can a killing vector field generate a diffeomorphism that only shifts points inside a small part of the manifold and preserves points outside of it?

by definition, killing vector fields generate isometries. so, for a global killing v.f. to exist, just find an isometry that fixes the entire manifold except for a "small part" of it. (I'm a bit skeptical about being able to do that, myself)
 
Tricky question... I think the answer is "no", at least for a connected manifold.

On a "small" part of the manifold, we may as well take the metric to be flat -- so, Minkowski or Euclidean. In n dimensions, flat space has n(n+1)/2 Killing vector fields. Any Killing vector field is a linear superposition of these. And I don't think you can get any linear superposition of these to vanish outside an enclosed region -- which is what you're asking for.

I'm sure there's an elegant way to prove this -- I'd have to think about it more. Maybe someone else will chime in?
 
I'm thinking if this is a proof:

An isometry preserves the metric, it therefore preserves geodesics. It maps geodesics to geodesics. Assuming the isometry is identity outside a small region, choose three points that are on a geodesics, two outside and one inside the region. The isometry keeps the two points and any point between them outside the region fixed but shifts the 3rd points. So we have two distinct geodesics connecting two points, which is not allowed by ODE's theory, the geodesics equation is a simple ODE that has a unique solution given an initial point and initial velocity.
 

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