Kinematics and proportionality.

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The discussion centers on a kinematics problem where velocity v is proportional to the square root of displacement s. The participant correctly derives that acceleration is constant, as it simplifies to (1/2)k², indicating that s does not influence acceleration. For the second part, they find that velocity v varies linearly with time t, leading to the conclusion that v and t are proportional. The responses affirm the participant's calculations and conclusions as accurate. Overall, the analysis demonstrates a solid understanding of the relationships between displacement, velocity, and acceleration in kinematics.
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Hey, please take a look at this problem, it should be quite straight-forward but I want to know if I've reached the right conclusion.

Homework Statement



A particle moves in a straight line with displacement s from some fixed point on the line and velocity v.

If v is proportional to sqrt(s), find the behaviour of the acceleration with s; and if v=0 when t=0, find how v depends on time.

The Attempt at a Solution



I put v = k*sqrt(s) and used a = v*dv/ds = k*sqrt(s)*(1/2)k*s^(-1/2) = (1/2)k^2. So it seems that the s disappears, and therefore the acceleration is constant. Is it correct to say this?

For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.
 
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raphile said:
For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.

If you let v=k\sqrt{s}, then the derivative with respect to s should be
= \frac{k}{2 \sqrt{s}}
 
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But in the part of my post that you quoted, I'm not using s at all. I'm just taking the acceleration that I found in the 1st part, (1/2)k^2, and calling it dv/dt, and then solving that to give v in terms of t. Is it not right to say v and t are proportional?
 
raphile said:
I put v = k*sqrt(s) and used a = v*dv/ds = k*sqrt(s)*(1/2)k*s^(-1/2) = (1/2)k^2. So it seems that the s disappears, and therefore the acceleration is constant. Is it correct to say this?
Looks good to me.
For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.
Again, looks good.
 
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