Kinematics equation problem. (two stones dropped from different heights)

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving two stones dropped from different heights, with the goal of determining the time it takes for each stone to reach the ground. The original poster presents a scenario where stone A is dropped from height h and stone B from height 2h, and seeks to understand the relationship between their fall times.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinematic equations to relate the heights and fall times of the stones. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem generically and seeks hints or advice. Some participants question the validity of the provided answer options and clarify the meaning of certain expressions. Others explore the implications of doubling the height on the time taken to fall.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications. There is recognition of the proportional relationship between height and time squared, and some participants affirm the reasoning presented by others. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer or method.

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Participants note the importance of correctly interpreting the problem statement and the implications of the kinematic equations. There is also a suggestion to keep different physics questions in separate threads for clarity.

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Homework Statement



Two identical stones are dropped from rest and feel no air resistance as they fall. Stone A is dropped from height h, and stone B is dropped from height 2h. If stone A takes time t to reach the ground, stone B will take time:

a. 2t
b. t/2
c. 4t
d. t /(square root of t)
e. 2 * (Square root of t)


Homework Equations



V = Vo + at
X - Xo = Vo*t + .5at^2
V^2 = Vo^2 + 2a(X - Xo)

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer is e, 2 times square root of t. My teacher hinted that I use one of the kinematic equations and solve for 2h using 2t. However, because this is a generic problem, I'm not really sure how to go about it. It's got to be the 1st for the 3rd equation, I'm don't feel like I have enough information. Any advice/hints/answers would be appreciated.

Also, if I have other physics questions about different kinds of problems (say vectors or acceleration) should I just make one thread containing them all or separate threads?
 
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Sentience said:
d. t /(square root of t)
e. 2 * (Square root of t)

Please check your problem sheet here - these two are not sensible options (as the square root of a time is not a time - how long is the square root of a second?). Are you sure it doesn't say something like (square root of 2) * t?

Homework Equations



V = Vo + at
X - Xo = Vo*t + .5at^2
V^2 = Vo^2 + 2a(X - Xo)

Well, these aren't all as relevant as each other. What do you know and what are you trying to find out? (In this context saying, e.g., the height is "h" counts as "knowing" it.)

Also, if I have other physics questions about different kinds of problems (say vectors or acceleration) should I just make one thread containing them all or separate threads?

Separate threads keep things simpler.
 
Answers d and e should read:

d. t / (square root of 2)

e. t * (square root of 2)

I'm sorry for the confusion.
 
Not at all - I was concerned you might have confused yourself! :-)
 
Ok, looking at equation number 2, the change in position is h. Since it's from rest initial velocity * t cancels to zero, leaving me with h = 4.9m/s^2 * t^2. Here is where I'm stuck.
 
That looks like a good start to me. So you know that h is proportional to t^2. If we now double h, we need to double the right-hand side of the equation too... so what would that mean we do to t?
 
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When I solve for t, I have h divided by 4.9m/s^2 all under a radical.

If I made h 2h instead, on the time side I would have to multiply t by root 2 to obey the rules of algebra.

Is this good reasoning?
 
Absolutely - well done.
 
Thanks for the help modulated.
 

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