Kinematics problem — Calculating displacements around a circle

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Homework Statement
Radius = 7 m
Distance covered at point A = 2 m
Distance covered at point B = 25 m
Find the displacement of the object from:
a. Initial position to point A
b. Intial position to point B
Relevant Equations
d = 2r
Diagram of a circle with a horizontal diameter from a point labelled initial position on the left to the right edge; points A and B lie on the circumference, A upper left and B lower right, and the radius is marked r.
 
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What does the phrase "distance covered" means in this problem?
 
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Lnewqban said:
What does the phrase "distance covered" means in this problem?
It was just written in the book. All I have to do is find displacement from initial position to A and from initial position to B
 
SSG-E said:
It was just written in the book. All I have to do is find displacement from initial position to A and from initial position to B
How would you do that?
I believe that some information is missing.
 
I assume from the numbers given that the thing is walking around the perimeter of the circle, and the distance covered is the arc length traversed.

If the initial point is denoted O, then the displacements ##\mathbf{OA}## and ##\mathbf{OB}## will be vectors. You will need to use the equations for arc length and the cosine rule to determine the magnitudes of these.
 
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etotheipi said:
I assume from the numbers given that the thing is walking around the perimeter of the circle, and the distance covered is the arc length traversed.

If the initial point is denoted O, then the displacements ##\mathbf{OA}## and ##\mathbf{OB}## will be vectors. You will need to use the equations for arc length and the cosine rule to determine the magnitudes of these.
how?
 
SSG-E said:
how?

I can give you the formulae, but I won't do it for you :wink:. The length of an arc which subtends an angle ##\theta## is ##s = r\theta##, whilst the cosine rule you probably know.

Draw some triangles!
 
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etotheipi said:
I can give you the formulae, but I won't do it for you :wink:. The length of an arc which subtends an angle ##\theta## is ##s = r\theta##, whilst the cosine rule you probably know.

Draw some triangles!
As chord OA = displacement; therefore chord length=displacement = 1.99 m
Is it correct?
Geometry sketch of a circle with centre marked, a horizontal radius to point B, and a chord from the initial position O to point A, with an angle theta at the centre. Side notes give arc length OA = 2 m, s = r(theta), theta = 2/7 rad = 16.37 degrees, and chord length = 2r sin(theta/2) = 1.99 m.
 
That looks good.

How about part 2? Make sure to be careful with your angles!
 
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etotheipi said:
That looks good.

How about part 2? Make sure to be careful with your angles!
will a triangle also be constructed in part b?
 
SSG-E said:
will a triangle also be constructed in part b?

Sure! If O is the initial position and C the centre, try considering the triangle defined by the edges OC, OB, BC.
 
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etotheipi said:
Sure! If O is the initial position and C the centre, try considering the triangle defined by the edges OC, OB, BC.
Displacement = 13.7 m Is this correct?
Diagram of a circular track with a cyclist's path marked by arrows from start point O past point A to point B on the right, with a chord drawn from the initial position to B, centre angle theta, and handwritten working for arc length and chord length beside it.
 
I think that's also correct, yes.

Technically if it asks you for the displacement, you should establish a coordinate system and write out the components. I don't know whether this is required for your assignment.
 
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etotheipi said:
I think that's also correct, yes.

Technically if it asks you for the displacement, you should establish a coordinate system and write out the components. I don't know whether this is required for your assignment.
Yes its also required how do i do that?
 
Then suppose you establish a Cartesian coordinate system with the ##\hat{x}## vector horizontal. You will need to first work out what angle each vector makes with the horizontal.
 
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etotheipi said:
Then suppose you establish a Cartesian coordinate system with the ##\hat{x}## vector horizontal. You will need to first work out what angle each vector makes with the horizontal.
Yes I get it. That is all for my assignment. Thanks for the help ; )
 
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